Talk:Russian diaspora

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On the Russian diaspora in Israel, it quotes an article that says "250,000 non-Jewish Russians". Many Russians in Israel are actually Jewish, so the 250,000 figure is much too low and completely misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.1.56.61 (talk) 19:43, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language_in_Israel it says "The Russian language in Israel is spoken by some 1 million people , about 20% of the total population" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.1.56.61 (talk) 19:46, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

The article contradicts itself. In the first line it says The term Russian diaspora refers to the global community of ethnic Russians. and then it goes on to say The first major wave of Russian emigrants to Australia began in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, largely Jews from the Baltic and south west of Russia escaping anti-Semitism. and A significant amount of Russian Jews were permitted to emigrate from the Soviet Union beginning with the late 1960's to Israel, sometimes referred to as the third wave (третьая волна). Many of them began arriving from Israel to the United States where they formed several Russian speaking enclaves, such as the Brighton Beach area of Brooklyn in New York City. In Russia (just like in all former Soviet Union, Israel etc.) Jews are considered as a separate ethnic group. Are we talking about Russian-speaking or ethnic Russian diaspora here ? The history of ethnic Russian immigration to Anglaphone nations should include the story of Doukhobors, Molokans, White Emigres and Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia rather than the history of Jews escaping anti-Semitism. Fisenko 14:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The data from beginning of the article (According to Russian government data) and data in "By country" section don't match. Russian government estimations seam to be exaggerated or outdated perhaps. --Kyng (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

fisenko, doing a separation between russians and russians jews is little racist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deleviy (talk • contribs) 12:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleviy, how so? The country of Russia contains many different ethnic groups, each with their own customs, languages, and histories, including Chechens, Buryats, Koreans, and Yupiks. Russian Jews are often Ashkenazim, descended from Jews who migrated from Central Europe, with their own distinct culture and language (Yiddish). No one is asserting that they, or any other minority group living in Russia, are any less entitled to all of the rights and privileges granted a Russian citizen than members of the Slavic-descended majority, as your politically-correct misunderstanding assumes. On the other hand, your comment suggests that the Slavic-descended majority of Russia (that is, ethnic Russians) shouldn't have an ethnic identity of its own - Russian Tatars are Russian citizens and ethnic Tatars, Russian Jews are Russian citizens and ethnic Jews, but ethnic Russians are simply Russian citizens and nothing more. See the "Russians" article to see how the Russian language differentiates Russian citizens from ethnic Russians. --74.103.150.125 (talk) 03:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Middle East and elsewhere

There is known to b sizable russian communities particuarly in Syria and Lebanon. Can anyone find info on that please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Distell (talk • contribs) 16:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah! And also in Iraq and Iran. lol!Keverich1 (talk) 11:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Russian emigres from the 1917 revolutions fled to western Europe (i.e. Belgium, France, the Netherlands and the UK) and parts of Latin America (i.e. Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, Panama and Costa Rica). Russians founded a fort in the present-day African nation Djibouti known as "New Moscow" in the 1800s. And Russia had a trade fort in 1800s Kingdom of Hawaii before the islands became part of the USA. 2605:E000:FDCA:4200:CD97:D3B6:27B9:B21F (talk) 03:53, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

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Percentage of Russians in the population

I would like to suggest the inclusion of what the percentage of the population is comprised of Russians on the tables in the Statistics section. I would find this information very useful and it is already available on the references. Thanks! x_spager (talk) 15:19, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I propose addition of qualifiers on the statistics outside the Eurasian region (post soviet space). Many of these are unlikely to distinguish between Russian and ethnic-Russian diaspora. Vyaiskaya (talk) 10:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

What does "Official census data often considers the only nationality" mean? It is meaningless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carusus (talk • contribs) 14:44, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Proposed additions regarding Russian Jewish emigration

I'm proposing adding a paragraph or subhead under the History header that gives information on the Jewish Russians that emigrated from Russia in the 19th century. 2.5 million Jews immigrated primarily from Tsarist Russia after 1880 alone but the waves of Jewish migration west were prominent from the 1820s to 1920s. In just 11 years of that time leading up to 1910, one-seventh of the Jews in Russia emigrated. Because Jewish immigrants were a notable group that had great influence in their leaving and in the places they settled, this seems like a relevant section for this article. Young men in particular, both Jewish and not, left Russia to escape conscription into the Russian army. Under the “Americas” subhead I would like to add a little more context around Russian Jewish immigration, just to state the pull factors that the United States specifically held for Jewish Russians. Roughly 80 percent of the Jews that immigrated from eastern Europe (⅓ of the total Jews in Eastern Europe) in the late 1800s went to the U.S. where their Russian and Jewish identity was challenged. The source I’ll be using for this information is Hasia R. Diner’s book The Jews of the United States, 1654 to 2000 from University of California Press. Diner is a historian and professor at NYU as well as the Director of the Goldstein-Goren Center for American Jewish History at NYU and the book went through a rigorous peer review process to be published so all information should be credible. Altogether I’ll add about 200-300 words. If anyone wants to comment on these changes, please let me know on this Talk Page. SarahKBW (talk) 11:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

References

Offensive division

Part "Statistics" contains offensive division into three groups of countries. After more than 30 years of fall of Soviet Union, by no means people want to be assiciated as "former Soviet". 88.118.99.188 (talk) 16:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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Hi this is not correct putin himself said israel has over 2 million russian speakers which makes a high percentage of israels population please fix it 93.172.24.127 (talk) 18:51, 23 November 2022 (UTC)