Talk:Ronan O'Rahilly

Not a worthy article for a worthy subject

This article is almost entirely made up from unsupported and undocumented sources. It is supposed to be the biography of a living person and in that it fails at every level. There should be a biography about this person but this rambling nonsense is not it. The current material should be removed here until it is rewritten and sourced and a minor stub left in its place on the article page until an editor creates a decent and well sourced biography. - unsigned comment by 70.129.60.60 dated

2007-02-03T17:52:45

Segment of original text removed to this page

(Ronan O' Rahilly is a Irish) businessman in the music industry. He founded the pirate radio station Radio Caroline on March 28, 1964, on a ship anchored in international waters three miles off the coast of Essex, southeast England. In his youth he had been educated at the Blackrock Academy, run by the eccentric Willie Martin. He managed The Beatles for a week and Georgie Fame and ran the Scene club in Soho. He was also the man who advised Australian actor George Lazenby to quit the role of James Bond after starring in just one Bond film, On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), believing Bond would not last past the mid 1970s.

His parents owned the port of Greenore in Carlingford Lough County Louth Ireland while his grandfather was killed in the Easter 1916 Irish Nationalist rebellion in Dublin.

The port of Greenore was used to fit out both Radio Caroline and rival station Radio Atlanta simultaneously, resulting in what O'Rahilly describes as Pirates of Penzance-style sabotage raids by each station upon the other's ship. In the event it was Radio Caroline which made it onto the air first.

In the 1970s O'Rahilly, noticing that that people found it easier to talk about hate than love, developed the philosophy of Loving Awareness, which has been heavily promoted on Caroline ever since. In 1976 an album of songs based on the concept was recorded by the Loving Awareness Band, a group assembled by O'Rahilly for the purpose.- unsigned comment by 70.129.60.60 2007-02-03T18:01:15

So why not do it yourself ?

While the original text was hardly perfect it would have been far better to do a proper edit/rewrite of it rather than removing virtually the entire text.

Basically your position can be summarised as "I think this article is crap and somebody should rewrite it but as I cant be bothered doing so myself Im just going to remove just about the entire text (good and bad alike) and then sit around waiting for someone else to sort it out" 80.229.222.48 12:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

He left it in a worse state than it was before, chopping out various pieces of useful and noncontroversial information, and leaving behind a "see also" section with very little info as to why the links are relevant. I'm reverting and will then remove any unsourced nonsense from the reverted version. --kingboyk 14:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Still a bit confusing

"He recorded a Georgie Fame record on his own independent level" - should that be "label"?

"He took the record to the BBC to try to get it played. He discovered that the record industry was dominated by EMI and Decca. He then tried to get it played on Radio Luxembourg. Again here, EMI and Decca, with a smaller Pye and Phillips show." - what does that mean? Did the BBC only play records from two labels? In that case was it the BBC rather than the record industry which was dominated by EMI and Decca? Did Radio Luxembourg have separate shows for different record companies' product? And shouldn't that be "Philips" with one "l"? I haven't edited it because the writer might have intended a different meaning.

Earldelawarr (talk) 09:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

On the question "Did Radio Luxembourg have separate shows for different record companies' product?" I believe this was indeed the case. I don't have a source for that though.Bruern Crossing (talk) 19:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Summary

The reason that "The name of Ronan O'Rahilly has also become associated with the offshore pirate radio station Radio Caroline" is that he is generally regarded as the founder of that station. If he was NOT the founder, then we need a source for this fact plus a statement that all published sources of offshore radio history name him as the founder of Caroline.Bruern Crossing (talk) 22:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Mythology and fact

No quarrel with the heading here, no doubt there are "facts" about Ronan that are actually myth. However, nowhere in this section are we told what is fact and what is myth.Bruern Crossing (talk) 22:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Re Write and remove contentious POV

Have done a total reformat, including removal of contentious material which was unsubstantiated. References are covered --Keith 20:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Interesting that no mention is made of his attempted invasion of Sealand in 1967 - so much for Spreading the Love ... 71.245.5.135 (talk) 08:27, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

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