Talk:Roh Moo-hyun

Policy

I replaced the previous penultimate paragraph which seemed to me to lack a degree of objectivity.

The removed text was:

'As president, Roh continues the engagement policy or Sunshine policy towards North Korea started by the president before him, Kim Dae-Jung. Yet, his cabinet's recent attitude towards this policy seemed compromised due to geo-political situation of which has been highly escalated due to North Korea's nuclear programme. However, it is widely perceived that this government is not capable of tackling issues around. His support for US military forces in Korea, even after possible reunification, needs enduring scrutiny due to lack of confidence in his policy.'

TJOB 23:57, Feb 24, 2004 (UTC)

Impeachment

Now that this article is featured in the "In the News" box on the Main Page, I've cleaned up the article vis-a-vis Roh's impeachment. One side note: he was impeached on March 12, not March 11. Although it was March 11 in the western hemisphere, it was Friday, March 12 in Korea. --Sewing 18:54, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Just minor comments...

"His victory was a dramatic surprise, made possible by a last-minute betrayal by a political ally that backfired." -- In my opinion, this is an exaggeration and contains some--perhaps unconscious--bias of the writer. It was indeed one of factors that led to Roh's victory, but there were other more important reasons. I would like to change "made possible by" especially.

Notes on "Impeachment"-- It appearss to me that some people on this discussion board do not fully understand what the word 'impeachment' means. Roh, just like Bill Clinton of US, was 'impeached,' which means his power as the president was temporarily suspended and he was brought before the Supreme Court. However, he was not 'convicted,' which means the Court did not find him guilty. Thus, in strict definition, Roh's impeachment was not "illegal" or "failed," as this article says. It should say he was impeached but not convicted. --Hychu — Preceding comment added by 140.247.71.110 (talk) 25 June 2007 (UTC). Signature added by SUM1 (talk) 7 February 2020

Impeachment split

Saw that @Holidayruin proposed that the section for Roh's impeachment be split off in 11 Dec 2021. Wanted to create a discussion thread for it.

I oppose it because it meets neither criteria in WP:WHENSPLIT. It's also an old request, so I'll probably just remove it unless someone wants to rediscuss it. toobigtokale (talk) 21:16, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

My main intention was to say that a new article should be made for the impeachment. This is an important moment in South Korean political history, and it is very common for impeachments to have their own Wikipedia article (see Impeachment of Park Geun-hye, Second impeachment of Donald Trump, Impeachment of Dilma Rousseff, etc). I know it's not a large section. It just needs more work and editing.

Furthermore, the Impeachment of Roh Moo-hyun already has an article on the Korean Wikipedia (ko:노무현 대통령 탄핵소추).

Holidayruin (talk) 17:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I agree that it’s an important topic and deserves more discussion. But it doesn’t meet the criteria for splitting. Topics that deserve their own article (again, I agree that this totally does) isn’t sufficient to merit a split toobigtokale (talk) 19:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

@Holidayruin any updates? Maybe we can/should open an official split discussion using the template to invite other opinions toobigtokale (talk) 19:27, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

If no updates, I'll go ahead and remove the template for now. It's been over a week with no response, and I think the policy falls pretty clear in this case. toobigtokale (talk) 03:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)