Talk:Rodney Howard-Browne
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editArticle still qualifies as "Start" class. While it does provide a good deal of significant information on his professional career, the amount of directly biographical content could very easily stand improvement. John Carter (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Most of the article is based on op-Ed and critical opinions and journalistic interpretations of events, clearly evidenced by the sources cited. The entire thrust is to create a negative narrative of a person, which is always the fatal flaw of this kind of critique. The article should be dismantled until a more balanced view is presented.
Prod removed
editAs reviewing admin, it looks like he's at least arguably notable. I don't know if Charisma magazine is a RS, but the Salt Lake Tribune sure is. Given this, he looks at least borderline notable. Prod removed. Feel free to go to AfD.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:32, 23 December 2008 UTC
PR piece?
editLooks like a promotion piece. Where's the criticism section? Prometheus-X303- 05:14, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
This article/topic is significant but needs major additions
editI agree with the above statements that this article reads like an advertisement--which is quite surprising in light of the fact that Howard-Browne is actually a controversial figure. Rodney Howard-Browne was one of the driving forces behind a major revival movement that swept through charismatic Christian circles in the 1990s. Howard-Browne was/is controversial because his methods and style were very unorthodox. He introduced "holy laughter" (see "Toronto Blessing"--notice that article links back to this one) into the charismatic movement, and often referred to himself as the "Holy Ghost Bartender" and the "Holy Ghost Hit-man." His influence is very evident on the Toronto Revival held at Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship in the mid-'90s, to which another evangelist named Randy Clark imported the unique spiritual manifestations of "holy laughter," shaking, animal noises, and other unusual phenomena often observed at Howard-Browne's revival meetings, causing these to be spread quickly around the world. The Toronto revival in turn was a very significant part of what's often called the "Third Wave of the Holy Spirit" and also contributed to the popularization of the "Kansas City Prophets" and the current-day "Apostolic-Prophetic Movement." The movement is still controversial to this day and the controversy goes back indirectly to Howard-Browne because he is the one who set the tone for the entire movement. This movement in turn has had a remarkable influence on all of present-day Christianity.
I mention all this simply to point out that Rodney Howard-Browne is a significant figure in modern-day Christianity, and for the charismatic movement in particular. A lot more material needs to be added to this article in order for it to accurately reflect Howard-Browne's life and influence.
Also, I recommend changing the importance of this article from Low to Moderate. Spiritquest (talk) 05:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Edits on 03/13/11
editI took a stab at addressing some of the problems with the article. Much of the information lacked supporting links or the links led to nothing relevant, and the feel was unencyclopedic in a few places. The external links list contained redundant and dead links. It still needs a lot of work, and particularly, more details from independent sources. Rhode Island Red (talk) 21:43, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Antarctica
edit"In 1989, in upstate New York, revival "broke out" (became evident) in meetings that Howard-Browne was leading (or attending). Since that meeting, he has held revival meetings in every continent except Antarctica."
Antarctica? Seriously? He is not going to preach to penguins and walruses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.65.67.95 (talk) 02:20, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Animal Noises
editI have removed the animal noises reference due to having a very long and personal experience with Rodney and have access to his very extensive video archives, and have not found one instance of the "Animal Noises". The animal noises is rightly attributed to the Toronto Blessing. Rodney has on many occasions spoken out against such things. obelisk29 (talk) 13:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
- That, in WP parlance, is what is known as original research, and it doesn't fly here. The source that you removed, which is a reliable source, says otherwise. Please stop edit warring and do not alter this material unless you can find reliable sources that support your contentions. Rhode Island Red (talk) 17:22, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Obelisk29 is actually correct. Rodney Howard-Browne is not known for having animal noises in his meetings. The reference should be removed as it is inaccurate. There are a great many manifestations in his meetings, but animal noises are not some of them.
- Again, it is Wikipedia policy to not rely on personal accounts from Wikipedia editors or other individuals but what reliable source state. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:27, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Christchurch shootings
editI entered the piece about his reaction to the Christchurch mosque shootings based on a Rawstory.com item about a tweet from him. Based on my opinion of RHB I think it's plausible, but (1) I cannot find an opinion that rawstory.com is a reliable source, and (2) when I go to Twitter, the wording and the time of the tweet have changed from that in the source. I don't know enough about Twitter (I do not have an account) to know if he amended his tweet after second thoughts and possible reaction, or maybe that rawstory invented it in the first place. For now I will leave my edit in place but I will revert it in a week or so if I cannot otherwise substantiate it.Cross Reference (talk) 15:03, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
There is more here. https://twitter.com/rhowardbrowne/status/1106562357512339456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1106562357512339456&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patheos.com%2Fblogs%2Fprogressivesecularhumanist%2F2019%2F03%2Ftrump-loving-megachurch-pastor-calls-new-zealand-terror-attack-false-flag%2F But again, I don't know enough about Twitter. Could this be faked?Cross Reference (talk) 15:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
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