Talk:Rob Delaney (baseball)
Latest comment: 7 years ago by Anarchyte in topic Requested move 27 October 2016
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Normally, after an article has survived a WP:PROD nomination, it should not go through that process again and instead should go to WP:AFD. I believe the second PROD was not in bad faith, but I wanted to list it in the Old Prod Full template again just the same.--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:56, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Requested move 27 October 2016
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Moved. There is consensus to move both pages, although weaker for the 2nd move, it's still apparent. (non-admin closure). Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:42, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
– There are only two Rob Delaneys on Wikipedia. One is the guy occupying the undisambiguated name, a marginally notable baseball player who played in just 5 MLB games. The other one, the comedian, is clearly far more notable. Pageviews are clearly in his favor, he gets 96% of them with 656 a day despite having disambiguation. Long-term significance will likely go in his favor as well. It is clear the primary topic here should be swapped. Nohomersryan (talk) 01:51, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Support first, oppose second Doesn't have to be a primary topic, and not user-friendly for common names + common surnames; Rob is just a short form of Robert. Plus swapping "primary topics" is a bad idea. Move the baseball player and redirect Rob Delaney to Robert Delaney disambiguation. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:12, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Again with the "there doesn't HAVE to be a primary topic" logic, IIO. Please acknowledge that in this instance, there IS one. Unreal7 (talk) 23:14, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- IIO, do you believe any article should be a primary topic? Or is your preferred version of Wikipedia just a bunch of disambiguation pages? Calidum ¤ 05:06, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- I will not accept this kind of personal comment. The above reason for not supporting this move for a WP:RECENT Twitter celebrity is sufficient. I do not need to take any form of personal attacks for expressing a view in line with the both halves of the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC guideline. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:25, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Not a personal attack. Merely frustration at constantly ignoring blatant primary topics for no apparent reason. Unreal7 (talk) 18:57, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to long-term significance, if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:04, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ergo, primary topic. Unreal7 (talk) 00:39, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
- "A topic is primary for a term, with respect to long-term significance, if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:04, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Not a personal attack. Merely frustration at constantly ignoring blatant primary topics for no apparent reason. Unreal7 (talk) 18:57, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- I will not accept this kind of personal comment. The above reason for not supporting this move for a WP:RECENT Twitter celebrity is sufficient. I do not need to take any form of personal attacks for expressing a view in line with the both halves of the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC guideline. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:25, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Unreal7 (talk) 23:14, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Support. The comedian gets 30 times the pageviews, despite not being at the basename. Honestly, you'd have to be obtuse (to put it politely) to deny there is a primary topic here. Calidum ¤ 05:06, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Support first, Weak support second: I think if there is a primary topic it's the comedian, but I can see an argument for just moving them both to a disambiguation page and waiting to see if one of them becomes remarkably popular. 656 views / day is not an overwhelming amount and while it seems unlikely that the baseball player will overwhelm the comedian in popularity eventually, I don't see a huge harm in proceeding with caution. 0x0077BE (talk · contrib) 16:10, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Very clear primary topic. Station1 (talk) 22:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.