Talk:Queen Naija

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Hipal in topic Fixing This Article

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here first song was medicine.

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Fixing This Article edit

To anybody who comes across this message, hello! I'm here because this article is currently a mess. I'm trying to fix it, so here's what you can do to help.

Personal Life

I actually had to delete the entirety of the "personal life" section because there were no citations to back up any claims made there. I'm not very fond of editing this section, so to help, you can add the section back and write it, but please make sure you add citations to prove your claims. If you don't cite evidence, your claims will likely be deleted.

Picture in the Infobox

Currently, the photo in the infobox is a picture of Queen Naija crying, and it's not very good, so if you don't want to edit the main contents of the article, a very easy job is to find a picture of Naija that has no copyright and has a creative commons license. You can then add it to the infobox, and if you don't know how to do that, look it up, or leave the link to the photo in the talk-page so I can add it in myself.

Controversies

A section for Naija's controversies does not exist right now. You can help by creating the section and adding at least one of her controversies. Make sure you add a citation that proves the claim you're making or it will be removed from the article. Make sure you are not including any original research (read this). In simpler terms, make sure everything you add has been talked about by a major publication. Do not use unreliable sources such as blogs, YouTube videos, or anything else that is not a strong source. VersaceSpace (talk) 14:15, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

It all comes down to what references we can find and their quality.
"Controversies" sections are inappropriate. Wikipedia is not a venue for gossip or scandal-mongering. --Hipal (talk) 16:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Incorrect, controversy sections in exist in nearly every significant artists' Wikipedia pages. I would leave evidence here, but you could literally look at any page that belongs to an artist and you would see a controversy section. VersaceSpace (talk) 19:20, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

WP:CSECTION (admittedly an essay, not a policy) has a good explanation of how we should approach negative material in order to maintain neutral point of view (one of the core tenets of Wikipedia). To keep everything balanced, it makes a lot of sense to incorporate both positive and negative material into the same section. There's a lot of silliness on Wikipedia (and sometimes downright unprofessional writing), which is one reason why it's better to look at policies and guidelines (like WP:NPOV) rather than trying to model articles after one another. Larry Hockett (Talk) 19:46, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. The policy is NPOV, as detailed in WP:STRUCTURE. --Hipal (talk) 23:17, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thank you both so much for your contributions to this discussion. My belief is that you can have a controversy page and keep a neutral point of view.

For example, the 2009 MTV VMA's Wikipedia pagecorrectly presents how to do this. VersaceSpace (talk) 18:39, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Other stuff exists. If you can find a high-quality article where there's discussion and consensus for such a section, that would be something to learn from and follow. --Hipal (talk) 18:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

The essay you sent me implies that the article I linked is the only article with a controversy section. If articles like Doja Cat, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, Justin Bieber, Kanye West, Azealia Banks, and plenty of others can have controversy sections, I think Naija should get one too.VersaceSpace (talk) 18:47, 8 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

The policy, which I already identified, is that organizing articles in this manner is inappropriate. I expect any article you find with such organization will not have any strong, broad consensus for it. Entertainment BLP articles are notorious for BLP, NOT, and POV problems. --Hipal (talk) 16:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

This is still a problem. Currently the first 10 references are all poor, interviews or BLPSPS sitations. --Hipal (talk) 22:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Reply