Talk:Peter Molyneux

Interview in Minecraft documentary

Molyneux was interviewed in the film "Minecraft: The Story of Mojang". The subtitle at the end of the film claims Minecraft was his inspiration for leaving Microsoft. Is this a worthy piece of information, or useless trivia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MorningSciFi (talk • contribs) 06:55, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Notice regarding "leaving the industry" (Jan 28 2016)

It was added and quickly removed, probably because it was discovered the announcement on his twitter that Peter was leaving the industry was because his Twitter account was hacked, and he has no plans yet to leave. I'm just dropping this here in case that future editors try to include it but don't read up on the followup on the hacked account. [1]. --MASEM (t) 22:39, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

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Entire "In the Media" section appears VERY SUSPICIOUS IN TERMS OF IMPARTIALITY

Peter Molyneux

The entire section titled "In the Media" has quite a lot of issues with impartiality. In particular, claiming games are a "success" despite neither being critically received nor well received by the public is of particular note.

Peter Molyneux, the man the article is based on, has a history of making exaggerated claims about the games he creates, his companies, and his "success". Godus, one of the projects that is highlighted as being "a huge success" is, to put it bluntly, not a success at all. The game has failed to be completed, people who crowd funded the game on the website Kickstarter have not had their goals met, nor their money returned, nor received any product that they were promised. Many complaints are visible on both the Kickstarter page for the game Godus, as well as the 22Cans forums; in addition a person who was promised profits of the game as well as the ability to be a "God" among all the players has received nothing at all from either 22Cans or Peter Molyneux himself: this is confirmed in both interviews with the person as well as Peter Molyneux himself (easily found online).

To call a game a success which was never finished, as well as resulted in the near bankruptcy of the company and the laying off of almost every employee of said company, is suspect at minimum and an outright lie at worst.

Peter Molyneux has a history of lying to the press, the people who anticipate his games, and his customers. He is infamous for this in the industry, and it would appear that either he himself, or others who have a relation to him (either financially, personally, or perhaps even a simple fan of his) have perhaps written parts of this article, which would explain the impartiality and the extreme positive spin put on what some people could call objective failures.

I believe that at minimum, the "In the Media" section needs to be redone, or at least remove unbiased claims, such as calling a game a success based on mere downloads alone: if something were defined as a success simply by this metric, then any game, or even any piece of software, could be called a success simply based on the number of people who have downloaded it, either willingly or unwillingly, and in spite of facts that would state that the game or software was in fact a failure, but simply was downloaded many times for any reason, be it curiosity, or in order to review it themselves.

At worst, I believe the entire biography of this person needs to be redone. I also find several related articles to be suspect in some ways, including the articles surrounding his company 22Cans, and IN PARTICULAR, his game Godus, which was NEVER FINISHED, WAS IN THE EYES OF CRITICS A FAILURE, AND IN THE EYES OF THE PEOPLE WHO FUNDED THE VERY GAME A TOTAL AND COMPLETE FAILURE AND BORDERLINE THEFT OF THEIR MONEY: they have never received money back despite not meeting the Kickstarter goal, which is guaranteed in part both by the company utilizing the service, as well as Kickstarter themselves.

While I do possess editing skills, having been editors of certain scholastic publications (college newspapers), I have no skills whatsoever in editing wikipedia articles, and thus would defer this to people with experience in that particular area.

Most of the information I have posted here is very easily verified by anyone looking to do so, and much of what is written in the biography, again is suspect at best, and outright lies at worst148.74.28.2 (talk) 21:42, 11 July 2017 (UTC)K

The "Huge success" line was added by another editor, I've removed it because you can't claim that on sales alone. I don't think it needs re-writing, it just need the Godus stuff adding (in normal case letters), that will balance it out. Why hasn't it been done? because no one has bothered to do it. I'd suggest that you mention it at WT:VG - X201 (talk) 10:18, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

The article is pretty soft on Molyneux, compared to some very uncharitable Youtube presentations that are…they bring receipts but wow that guy hates Molyneux. It seems a little over the top if you ignore Milo, which Molyneux said was fully functional and even gave a demonstration of it interacting with a human in realtime…which turned out to be completely faked, using an actress with scripted lines against a pre-recorded, pre-rendered video. There's a lot out there that's less about Molyneux overhyping his games and more just making things up on the spot while giving interviews and presentations and claiming they're already in the game and completely tested and working.

I'm not entirely sure if the golden mean fallacy applies here, or if he's really just that bad. John Moser (talk) 06:58, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Interview part 1
• Interview part 2

22cans "early access" statement

To date, 22Cans has sold early access on multiple titles including Godus, Godus Wars, and The Trail. As yet, despite three years of quoted development and a large Kickstarter for Godus,[22] no projects have left early access.[23][24]

This statement is not true; personally I have played The Trail and it is not in "early access", has been out for over 3 years now; not sure about Godus or Godus Wars but at least The Trail has moved on to the release phase from early access. 74.215.25.222 (talk) 19:44, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Parody account

Suggest removing the link to the parody article. I have never, ever seen any other Twitter parody account be listed on a notable person's Wikipedia page, regardless of how funny people might think it is. And thousands have parodies. Lythalicious (talk) 22:08, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

The criteria here is not that the person is notable, so the twitter account is notable; rather, the twitter account seems to be notable enough on its own to have an article written about it, and if such an article exists, it makes sense to link it. It looks like there are only a few other such articles in Category:Parody social media accounts (and the ones in there are of varying quality; some have passed WP:Good article review, while others are in much worse state). @Czar created that article and probably should weigh in here too. --Pokechu22 (talk) 22:38, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

That category is nothing but a very incomplete collection of the parody accounts people have bothered to add to it/Wikipedia. As a random example, Elon Musk alone has several parody accounts that have been written about quite extensively in the media. I don't buy that if someone takes the time to create a Wikipedia page for them that it should qualify them all to be listed on his page, because they aren't relevant to the facts of a person; they're their own thing. In my opinion, it's also mildly insulting that it's on there. Queen Elizabeth II has a hugely popular parody account; I think you'd get some pushback if you linked to an article about it from her Wikipedia page, but Molyneux is fair game? Lythalicious (talk) 01:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Until those parody accounts have enough coverage to warrant their own articles, the comparison is an academic exercise. The article's "See also" section is the place we commonly put links to related articles that are not themselves covered within the body of the article itself. The parody account has been the subject of sustained coverage and I don't think there is any question of its independent notability. These things being true, it makes sense that Molyneux's article at least mentions that parody account. Look elsewhere in the Category:Parody by medium category and it is common for noteworthy parodies to be mentioned in the articles of their reference works. czar 02:57, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

There is a ton of coverage of the queen_uk parody Twitter account, e.g. https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/02/25/britain-first-queen-twitter_n_9315530.html, https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/spoof-queen-england-twitter-account-650586/, https://mashable.com/article/best-queen-tweets-parody etc. It probably has more significant coverage than the Peter Molydeux account, so perhaps it's just waiting for someone to bother writing a Wikipedia entry to take up its place on Elizabeth_II. Lythalicious (talk) 22:14, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Legacy / LegacyCoin

Really quite confused as to why there is no mention of over $50 million dollars being raised for the "questionable" game Legacy .... Peace and Passion ☮  ("I'm listening....") 05:06, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Be bold. -- Primium (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

The following information might be of use

Someone unknown person left an HTML comment in the article that the following source (used in the article) includes useful information.

comment: not sure where this fits, since these are not Bullfrog games, according to that article: In this period, Molyneux worked with David Hanlon, Simon Hunter (game sound developers), and Andrew E. Bailey (game programming) on games like Druid and Dragons Breath.

source: "Company Profile: Bullfrog". Retro Gamer. No. 43. Bournemouth: Imagine Publishing. pp. 52–57. ISSN 1742-3155. -- Primium (talk) 17:11, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Place of birth

Do we have a source on his birthplace being Guildford? The Populous II manual lists his birthplace as Accra, Ghana. Lagrange613 17:44, 28 March 2024 (UTC)