Talk:Parkol Marine Engineering

Latest comment: 2 years ago by DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered in topic Foreign labour

Damage edit

86.27.43.143 I have undone most of your edits as they caused the template to fail. Please add only reliable sources for information and also note that the list is a sample of boats built by Parkol, not intended as a full list, though this could be achieved with the appropriate cites.

Also, if you are in any way associated with Parkol, please read the guidelines at WP:COI. Thanks and regards. The joy of all things (talk) 14:18, 19 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Foreign labour edit

Hello 86.29.36.208 and other editors. What is this thing about Under construction in Middlesbrough with foreign labour? Firstly, do we need this information – is it usual in engineering articles to want to specify the origins of the labour force? I am not sure I have seen it elsewhere, but I would be interested to see examples. What is the intent in giving this information – why is it important and notable for the article? Secondly, what is the reliable source for its inclusion? If we are going to say the labour force is foreign then presumably there is an RS that says exactly how many of them are not British citizens, at the least? I think it would be very useful to have answers to these, or if not to consider tagging or ultimately removing the notes. Thanks and best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 20:31, 13 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Since there has been no reply to this, maybe we should just remove all these references? There has been no case made for their inclusion – no response to my queries above. Any views please? Best to all, DBaK (talk) 22:46, 12 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
DBaK fully concur, not only does it not add to the article, it also is not cited. If the foreign labour force was down to some specialisation which local workforces could no longer do, then I would fully expect it to be cited reliably in some way. Otherwise, it feels almost xenophobic, so removal would be best. I think the list of ships is far too much now, perhaps that should be spun off into its own list article? But again, is it necessary? Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 03:31, 13 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, The joy of all things. I have tried a TalkBack at User talk:86.29.36.208 in the hope that they will come here and discuss it. This would be great. If they don't, I think it would be quite legit to remove it after say a week? This is even before we look at how much of the other information is unreferenced and whether we really need it, but it would certainly be nice to somehow understand what this foreign labour thing is about. Best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 12:22, 20 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
With this edit I have removed them. Looking up above here I feel that we have tried hard and long enough to discuss it, and the ball is now in the other editor's court. I'm sorry if this is a problem for the IP and I still wouldn't be unsympathetic to having a proper discussion about it, but I don't feel we can just leave it sat there so it would be in by default because its originator wouldn't talk. With best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 23:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Reply