Talk:Papillon (book)

(first comments)

Taking after the example of the excellent article Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, I am combining, improving and expanding the Papillon (book) and Papillon (movie) articles. Ross Uber - Talk - Contributions - 06:13, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

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• This is pretty great. I saw the movie a few weeks ago and was interested in the story behind it; this is a great article. --Fastfission 03:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Harry Potter above War and Peace and 1984??!

ROFLMAO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.127.212 (talk) 23:03, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

"The proper records show that the Papillon was published in 1969."

What proper records? Please cite. All of my sources [1] say it was published in 1970. Ross Uber - Talk - Contributions - 04:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

The french version was published in June 1969 - from the introduction to the US version from 1970.

Plan?

My copy of Papillon, translated by Patrick O'Brian and published by Panther Books in 1973, uses Charger to refer to the metal storage cylinders the inmates stored in their body cavities. I've never seen a copy of the book which uses Plan to refer to them... maybe a US edition? --Commander Zulu 07:41, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Plan is used in the Wilson and Michaels translation published in 1970

Movie's own article

The film should have it's own article for Christ's sake, It is an important movie by itself!

Film article

I've moved the information about the film to Papillon (film). This article can be about the book. Count de Ville 02:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

"Autobiography"?

Henri Charrière (a.k.a. "Papillon") was doubtless a felon, a murderer, a scoundrel and a liar. It has been sufficiently demonstrated that his successful novel "Papillon" was a fictional account, based mostly on other fellow inmates' experiences, so it is wrong (or highly debatable at best) that his book is still called "an autobiography" -- I'm moving the article Papillon (autobiography) to Papillon (novel). --AVM (talk) 17:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Since the publisher admitted it was a novel, why is the book still called a memoir? It is no more a biography than "War of the Worlds" is!203.184.41.226 (talk) 05:29, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Suggesting to remove articles about book characters

Nowadays it's generally agreed that the book is for the most part fictitious. Because of that, I don't see any point in having a Wikipedia article on Louis Dega and Andre Maturette, since they are most likely made up characters or have at least had their names and backgrounds changed. Maybe they could have mini-biographies within the main article. lefuc (talk) 23:25, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Move?

There was a proposal (above) to move this, as it is not, in fact, an autobiography (and even Charriere calls it an autobiographical novel); but nothing seems to have ben done about it.
So, I am proposing it again, though I think Papillon (book) would be more neutral, to avoid the whole "is it fiction/is it true" dilemma.
Any thoughts? Swanny18 (talk) 17:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, done (finally!) Swanny18 (talk) 20:26, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

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Pigeon Island

In this article it is claimed that the Pigeon Island which Papillon and his friends escape to is located in Saint Lucia. In fact it is the Ile de la Quarantaine (which might have been also nicknamed Pigeon Island) located in the Maroni River between French Guiana and Suriname. I own a copy of the book which includes a map that affirms this. 139.11.200.50 (talk) 19:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Edit: It is actually the Ile aux Lépreux, located close to Ile de la Quarantaine. 139.11.200.50 (talk) 19:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)