Talk:Owen Roe O'Neill

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Iamdmonah in topic Name

O'Neill, not Uí Néill

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This article re-directs O'Neill to Uí Néill, which gives the false impression that they are the same term refering to the same people. Which is'nt so. Fergananim 20:51, 28 August 2005 (UTC) Not descendent from?Reply

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The image looks more like a nineteenth-century engraving, not 17th. Could we have the source please, as the quality is outstandingly high for the C17th.86.42.207.57 (talk) 22:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Death

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Is it known what type of disease Owen Roe O'Neill died of? I read an online source, which I don't know how credible is, that he died of pneumonia. JTBA75 (talk) 09:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hi JTBA75

My old History and Irish teacher, in the 1960's was adamant Eoghan Ruadh died from Gout. As an Irish O'Neill myself I have always had a great interest in this part of Irish history and that particular teacher was a fountain of knowledge, but I suppose nobody can know for sure at this stage Xyzspaniel (talk) 23:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks for the update. JTBA75 (talk) 11:40, 2 June 2013

Name

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Why is he called Owen Roe O'Neill in the article, when his actual name while he lived would have been in the Irish form - Eoghan Ruadh Ó Néill - Owen Roe is a modern day Anglicization! I say the Irish version should take precedence in this case.Xyzspaniel (talk) 23:24, 18 November 2015 (UTC)the opinion of a modern day Irish Eoghan Seosamh Ó NéillReply

I agree Iamdmonah (talk) 10:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Looks like modern politics is intruding

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"Fleeing the revenge of the Scottish soldiers convinced by propaganda alleging atrocities against Protestants in the rebellion of 1641 – allegations that have now been proved untrue.[3] To O'Neill the devastation of Ulster made it look, "not only like a desert, but like hell, if hell could exist on earth". O'Neill stopped the killings of Protestant civilians," Er so the Guardian article is untrue then ?

Ulster Army vs Laggan Army

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I have noticed several links from the text 'Ulster Army' which are linked to the page 'Laggan Army' This is incorrect. There is currently no wikipedia page for the Irish Ulster army it would bring more clarity if someone made the page and added links to it on this page.

Eoghan Ruadh Ó Néill was commander of the Ulster Army of the Irish Catholic Confederacy, not the Laggan Army.

The Laggan Army was a Protestant Planter militia set up to defend Protestants and fight the Confederates.

The Ulster Army was a Catholic, Irish Confederate army. This is the army O Neill commanded, not the Laggan Army. Iamdmonah (talk) 23:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)Reply