Talk:Operation Dragon Rouge

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It has come to my attention that the text added by Carlson288 here appears to be a verbatim WP:Copyvio of another source, namely this (Congo Crisis: Operation Dragon Rouge, published by Military History Magazine in 2006). If this indeed the case, Carlson288 should note that this is a serious error and not at all what Wikipedia is about. Please revert any similar edits you may have made on other articles. —Brigade Piron (talk) 09:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Who is that man in the photo, if Dr. Paul Carlson is already dead at this time ?

I notice that Doctor Paul Carlson was shot dead by Simba rebels on 24 November 1964, the day that Belgian commandos arrived and attacked them (the rebels) at the Victoria Hotel. Apparently the rebels panicked at news of the commandos arriving, prompting them to fire on their hostages. Including Paul Carlson, who was next-in-line to those that escaped by scaling the wall, having just urged a clergyman to go before him. This is documented on the Paul Carlson page, and appears to have widespread acceptance. That being the case, the photo of him tending to a hysterical woman victim being evacuated on a stretcher cannot relate to Operation Dragon Rouge as our good Paul was too full of bullets by the time that the (other) hostages were reached and freed. Or else the photo is correctly attributed as pertaining to that event, but the man concerned is someone-else. With such a grainy photo, and the person wearing very dark glasses, its difficult to really know. The stretcher bearers certainly look like soldiers: sergeant's stripes for the white man, dark beret with regimental badge for the black man or woman - in addition to military style clothes which anyone could wear). The scene seems to be at the airport, loading a C130 for the flight out, as described by comments on the original photo media page (File:Dragon_Rouge_hostage.jpg): another soldier in the background has a white t-shirt under his uniform shirt, like a GI; there is also a van/ambulance close up in the background; there are no weapons, webbing or other fighting equipment in sight. --Neil Dewhurst, Lyon, France. (talk) 09:36, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't know what you're taking about - do you mean this photo here? It's not mentioned in the description and any claim that it is him in the photo (if not cited to a WP:RS) is, as you say, bound to be wrong... —Brigade Piron (talk) 23:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

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[1] -Indy beetle (talk) 00:35, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

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This article should be more detailed, and it needs more references. I added some page numbers and more details, but the article still needs a lot of work. Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum (talk) 01:10, 30 December 2018 (UTC)