Talk:List of Indigenous writers of the Americas

Really awkward name

Any way we could word the name better? It's really long, feels like it could be condensed. DemonDays64 (talk) 18:28, 19 October 2020 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

List of Indigenous writers of the Americas might work. Yuchitown (talk) 03:23, 20 October 2020 (UTC)Yuchitown

As the person who came up with the current clunky name, I'd support that change. Vizjim (talk) 15:24, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

I support the change of name too. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 03:25, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Do we need to do a formal vote, or user:Vizjim, could you just change it? Since there's been discussion and agreement? Yuchitown (talk) 15:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown

Lack of writers outside of The U.S. and Canada

Looking through the list, there is a noticeable lack on indigenous writers from Latin America compared to The United States and Canada. It's not hard to fix this, I'll try to work on it, but I'm adding a {{globalize}} tag until the issue is fixed. --BirdCities (talk) 20:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Page move

Per MOS:CAPS this should at the very least be at List of writers from peoples Indigenous to the Americas, which is still rather long and awkward. Wondering if we should compress the title a bit while we're at it. We could simply drop the "from peoples", so, List of Indigenous American writers? List of writers Indigenous to the Americas Other suggestions? I guess we could list it for more input. Or just do it. - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 22:52, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

List of Indigenous writers of the Americas sounds the best to me. Definitely needs moving; perhaps other viewpoints would help to determine best name. Yuchitown (talk) 17:16, 4 February 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown

Thanks so much to User:Sennecaster for making this move! Yuchitown (talk) 15:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Yuchitown

Anishinaabe

Just a note that Anishinaabe is not a tribe or nation; it's a umbrella term covering several different, related nations. Please list the person's specific tribe/nation. Otherwise, they probably do not belong on this list. Yuchitown (talk) 00:14, 1 December 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown

Unrecognized heritage groups

There's been ongoing conversation about parameters for US-based writers, readily accessible through this talk page's archives. User:Ghgilbert, who appears to be a new editor, wrote in a recent edit summary: "Just adding uniformity -- 'unrecognized tribe' under Little Badger but page has numerous writers of non-U.S.-based Indigenous communities (Kalaalisut in Greenland, Quechua peple in Peru -- all of whom are 'unrecognized' by the United States government). Just being uniform!" The scope of this list is the Americas, not the US (it's been flagged for since 2022 for being too focused on the US and Canada), so obviously US recognition of Indigenous peoples from other countries is irrelevant.

For writers in the US claiming the identity of tribes within the US, self-identification is insufficient for establishing Native American identity, as per WP:NDNID. A slightly different challenge arises when the groups claimed are unrecognized, like the Lipan Apache Band of Texas and the Lipan Apache Tribe of Texas. Of course, the Lipan Apache people are an Indigenous people, and the majority of them are enrolled in the Mescalero Apache Tribe in New Mexico. If you are new to Wikipedia, User:Ghgilbert, just know that this has a been a giant ongoing headache with wp:sockpuppetry, wp:meatpuppetry, etc. Yuchitown (talk) 15:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)