Talk:List of Yes band members

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Bondegezou in topic Timeline graph

Need for a separate article

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I don't see why this needs to have its own article... it was in the main Yes article before; couldn't it just stay there?--HisSpaceResearch 05:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've noticed this type of beak out list on a number of bands with lengthy member history. I looked back through the old Yes article where it was present and thought it looked cluttered. This list is certainly lengthy enough to warrant its own space. I might suggest wiki-linking each members name, once, in their first appearance on the list. Fair Deal 11:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Dave Potts

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The latest issue of Prog lists Dave Potts as a Yes member. That seems wrong to me, he tried out with the band only, but maybe worthy of mention. See [1] for more. Bondegezou (talk) 09:33, 22 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Addition of "Alternate Versions of Yes"

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I added this subsection at the bottom of the lineups to show the existences of Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe and Anderson, Rabin & Wakeman. Both of these bands did perform and are performing primarily Yes music and are billed/are billing their concerts as "An Evening of Yes Music Plus" and "An Evening of Yes Music & More" respectively. It's also important to note that in both these cases some of the members of these bands have spoken out about how they consider the alternate bands to be the official version of Yes performing but were unable to use the name for legal reasons due to the existence of the official Yes. Since technically neither of these bands were or are the official versions of Yes, but yet have a strong tie to the group and are considered by their members and many fans to be versions of Yes in themselves, I think it is appropriate that they get a mention in one subsection at the bottom of the article. sk8punk3d288 20:40, 12 October 2016 (EST)

I thought that was rather interesting and I vote to keep that subsection. Clausgroi (talk) 02:12, 13 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Rewritten article proposition

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Hi. I recently rewrote this article (see here), changing the layout according to other band member lists on Wikipedia (of which I have created or rewritten many), sourcing proper dates and references for member changes, and researching each member's contributions to every Yes album. This edit was subsequently reverted, so now I bring it to the talk page in hopes that it will be approved by the community. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Andre666 (talk) 15:02, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'm not for and against all elements of this edit, but I think it warrants some discussion. My preliminary thoughts follow. I can see advantages to the use of tables. However, I think the new lede is a mistake -- we don't need to duplicate content in the main article -- and we should keep the lede as is. I liked the table that showed the evolution of line-ups over time, as is done on similar articles, and don't want to see that lost. The new version also loses all reference to Yes ft ARW. We had lengthy discussions to reach a consensus over how to cover ARW: we shouldn't just remove them again without being clear there is a consensus behind that. Bondegezou (talk) 15:07, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
The previous discussion around ARW begins at Talk:Yes_(band)#Anderson.2C_Rabin_and_Wakeman_-_their_current_status_in_Yes and continues through several subsequent sections. @Joefromrandb: @Lawrence King: @Shubopshadangalang: @LowSelfEstidle: Obviously one could include ARW within Andre666's new proposed format. Bondegezou (talk) 15:12, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
I certainly think that the new lede shouldn't exist. I'm not even convinced that there should be separate articles for Yes (band) and List of Yes band members, but as long as there are, the List of Yes band members article should not explain the history of Yes, the formation of Yes, or even the reason for personnel changes. All of this is documented in the Yes (band) article, as it should be.
Auxiliary articles should focus solely on what their title says. For example, the article Cheers has an auxiliary article called List of Cheers episodes, and the auxiliary article merely lists all the episodes. It doesn't discuss anything else.
The table looks very good to me; I think it's nicer than the old version.
For some reason, the new Timeline graphic has lots of crazy diagonal black lines on my version -- please view it in Firefox before making it permanent. I don't see the need for the Timeline graphic to include backing vocals; it makes the color bars much more complicated, and tons of band members sing backing vocals.
And I agree with Bondegezou that the old Lineups section was quite good. It should not be deleted; it can coexist with your new table changes. Its subection, "Bands Closely Related to Yes", should remain as well (although I wouldn't mind if the 2008 "Howe Squire and White of Yes" entry was deleted, but that's just my opinion and I don't care to advocate for that). — Lawrence King (talk) 19:32, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

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SCW

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What is this and why isn't it explained anywhere in the article?Jules TH 16 (talk) 08:20, 9 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Timeline graph

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The timeline graph is literally unreadable. By trying to cover details, it has become far too complicated. As with other articles, can be simplified? So, don't bother listing additional rhythm guitar and percussion playing by the lead singer. Let's just focus on people's main roles. Bondegezou (talk) 09:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Go for it. See also WP:BRD. —Shada Ng (talk | contribs) 14:39, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am not very good at editing these sorts of figures. I hope someone who is more adept can step in. Bondegezou (talk) 12:57, 2 September 2023 (UTC)Reply