Talk:List of ID10T with Chris Hardwick episodes
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Material from The Nerdist Podcast was split to List of The Nerdist Podcast episodes on 19 November 2011. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted so long as the latter page exists. Please leave this template in place to link the article histories and preserve this attribution. The former page's talk page can be accessed at Talk:The Nerdist Podcast. |
List was copied from main article
editIn order to maintain licenses, I should have included the source of this material in the edit summary of page creation. The entire table was copied from a recent version of The Nerdist Podcast. It's possible this page should be speedied (per G7) and recreated using the correct edit summary. I'll ask an admin for advice. BusterD (talk) 20:40, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- At the advice of someone I trust, I made small edits to both the main page and this one, stating the split-off material's source and linking the version in the edit summary. In addition, I added a See Also section to the main page linking this resource. This failure to disclose per WP:SPLITTING was a lapse in judgement on my part; I stand behind my choice to create this list from the version used. BusterD (talk) 21:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking the time to parse this section into an article of its own. Lists like this are one of WP's major features. EraserGirl (talk) 21:28, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- It seemed the logical thing to do. Should have the effect to siphon some of the ip chatter away from the main page. This table could actually be a featured list, given time, imagination, sourcing and effort. Nerds and wikipedians, it seems like a natural marriage. BusterD (talk) 22:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking the time to parse this section into an article of its own. Lists like this are one of WP's major features. EraserGirl (talk) 21:28, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Establishing notability of the episode list
editThe show meets WP:N, but does an episode list? I wrote this at Talk:The Nerdist Podcast#Section_break_1:
- Creating List of The Nerdist Podcast guests would solve my concern about the disproportionate detail in [that] article, but raises other issues. There are some other examples – see List of The Daily Show guests and other Category:Lists of celebrities. But we'd need to satisfy WP:LISTN which in my interpretation requires substantial coverage of the guests as a group or set in reliable, secondary sources – something I haven't yet seen. There was a lengthy and somewhat interesting deletion discussion about the Daily Show list. It did not result in a consensus to keep or delete.
A list of episodes has the same issue - satisfying WP:LISTN. The LA Weekly interview has two paragraphs that talk about the guests as a set, which is good. Neither of the other referenced sources substantially cover multiple episodes. Additional sources that do, would help.
For what it's worth I don't plan on taking this to Afd myself. The split seems like a reasonable compromise. But better establishing list notability would help contribute to a "keep" consensus if it's nominated in the future (and following WP:V and WP:NOR will help avoid such a nomination). --Pnm (talk) 03:09, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! You know who could help us, being very aware of sources and media attention? Spamwick. This is one of those cases in which the subject's extensive knowledge about the cultural impact of his own program could be reasonably brought to bear to help pagespace. I keep thinking there's got to be a good and ethical way to use involved persons to help their related wikipages; this is one way. BusterD (talk) 10:29, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree. Posting a list here would work well. --Pnm (talk) 16:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Name Change from 'Nerdist Podcast' to 'ID10T Podcast'
editHello fellow Wikipedians,
Chris Hardwick has decided to rename the podcast. How do you guys want to have this handled? I suggest, we continue the list as it was with a delimiter between the names. So between Ep. 929 and Ep. 930 a little explanation and then continue the list.
Or do you prefer to end this list here and start a new one on another page? Your opinions please. Preferable if you're a representative of Nerdist/ID10T.
I wrote an email to nerdist.com on how they want it to being managed here on this site but no answer so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwissSenna (talk • contribs) 15:50, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 18 June 2018
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 20:48, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
List of The Nerdist Podcast episodes → List of ID10T with Chris Hardwick episodes – As already noted in the page, the program changed its title as of February 6, 2018; normally I would have just moved the page myself but due to the WP:BLP issues with the subject that came up this weekend it's best to request this move to leave a paper trail, along with concerns about the numbers in the title where it may be easier to just use Idiot. I have also done the same nom with the main Nerdist page already. Nate • (chatter) 03:15, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. No evidence that reliable sources are using the new name. Andrewa (talk) 08:05, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Split discussion
editHello koavf, it appears that you added a split tag to the article. What exactly were you planning on splitting the article into? I can see that the article is fairly long, but honestly I don't quite see how splitting the page would be helpful to anyone. I'm also not sure how this list is even notable. If you're going to split it into even smaller lists will you be able to demonstrate the notability of each smaller list? If the length of the list is a concern then we could add the option to collapse tables. TipsyElephant (talk) 20:59, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting. Probably per year or maybe in five-year chunks. Adding collapsible tables will only increase the total size of the page. Note that per WP:SIZERULE, this is way too long at almost double the max size in kB. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:36, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Koavf: what're thoughts on the notability of the list? How does this list satisfy WP:NLIST and how would the split articles satisfy the notability guideline? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- I have no response to the first part. Split by year or by five-year chunks is my preference. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:46, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I think I would prefer to pursue an AfD before splitting this into more articles. Even if this list does end up being notable that would provide a lot more input from other editors so there is a clearer consensus. If you believe that this list passes WP:NLIST would you mind clarifying how it passes? TipsyElephant (talk) 01:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- I have no perspective on that. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:23, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I think I would prefer to pursue an AfD before splitting this into more articles. Even if this list does end up being notable that would provide a lot more input from other editors so there is a clearer consensus. If you believe that this list passes WP:NLIST would you mind clarifying how it passes? TipsyElephant (talk) 01:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- I have no response to the first part. Split by year or by five-year chunks is my preference. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:46, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Koavf: what're thoughts on the notability of the list? How does this list satisfy WP:NLIST and how would the split articles satisfy the notability guideline? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)