Talk:Li Chengqian

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He was survived by a grandson, Li Shi (李適), who later pled to Emperor Xuanzong that his grandfather be buried in Zhao Cemetery (昭陵). Li Shi's wish was granted on December 8, Kaiyuan 25, after Li Chengqian was given the posthumous name of Prince Mǐn of Héngshan (恒山湣王) August 27 the year before. However, it wasn't until May 29, Kaiyuan 26 that Li Shi moved his grandfather into Zhao Cemetery. New Tang Book recorded the burial to be very elaborate, but when the 30 x 3.1-metre tomb was excavated in 1972, it was not found to be the case. There were only 118 characters in his biography memorial tablet (墓誌) and 234 in seal script on his tombstone.

1.) 李適 is not pronounced shi4, the historical reading of that time is believed to be Li Kuo4, see http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%94%90%E5%BE%B7%E5%AE%97 (适 is the simplified version of 適)

2.) Is 李適 really the grandson of 李承乾?

2.1) In history, 李適 is the 9th emperor of 唐, 唐德宗, not the grandson of deposed crown prince.
2.2) 李承乾 died when he was 25~ish, how can he have a grandson? If his grandson was sired by his son, who 'survived' him, it cannot be said that he is survived by his grandson, as surviving means still living. Given the highly unlikely scenario that his son sired another, which would mean that, minus the 18 months required for the two pregnancies, the average age of these fathers at the time of conception was 11 years of age. Please check this.

I do not have the time necessary at the present moment to conduct a much more detailed research into his life and lineage, but the above seemed to be obviously incorrect as it stands.

It's really Li Shizhi (李適之), a chancellor during the reign of Emperor Xuanzong. --Nlu (talk) 04:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)Reply