Talk:Kurds in Turkey

Ethnic minority?

Is there a reason why texts about Kurds (including this article) seem to go out of their way to not use the word "minority"? Can the Kurds in Turkey be called an ethnic minority or not? Gerald Jarosch (talk) 23:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Percentage of population by region

So I looked at a couple of articles and few if any at all mention kurdish population percentage. I mean every important city with significant numbers of minority populations have tables and things like these. But when it comes to Kurds there is little info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.226.34.226 (talk) 10:35, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

False And Misleading Claim Made In The History Section

The cited material does not stand for what the author of this section claims. (66.215.129.152 (talk) 02:50, 3 August 2015 (UTC))

@66.215.129.152: What exactly?--Zoupan 03:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Kurds exaggeration population

Arab spring , the war in Iraq , the Syrian civil war , dividing the large Middle East project, the Kurdish political have been proposed and supported by the West , the population is overstated.

Syrian kurds Population : % 8-9 ,Iraq kurds % 15-17 (kurds-shabaks-yazidis),Turkey % 15-18 (kurds-zazas) ,Iran : % 7-9

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Population

The population section has rewritten using more sources and adding more neutrality. Ferakp (talk) 21:47, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Ekurd article for population figures

Resolved

Ferakp can you check the source? It doesn't work. Beshogur (talk) 21:55, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Beshogur: The link has been brought from the web archive. Ferakp (talk) 22:02, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Beshogur, regarding your attempted removal of the Ekurd article 4 times now in the last month 1, 2 3, 4 the utilized --> article is based on reporting from Mashallah Dakak, with Rudaw and relies on figures compiled by the Turkish Statistical Institute (TurkStat) from the government in Turkey. Is it your contention that TurkStat’s figures are false? EKurd is merely the site hosting the information and explicitly says themselves that they are not responsible for the content in the article at the top of the page.  Redthoreau -- (talk) 22:23, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

I've recently searched Ekurds claim. [3] This claim includes Turkish majority cities like:

* Elazig (Zaza and Turkish)

* Erzincan

* Gaziantep

* Kars

* Malatya

* Kahramanmaras

* Sivas

* Ardahan

* Van (Turkish and Kurdish)

* Igdir (Azerbaijani and Kurdish)

* Urfa (majority Arab)

* Tunceli (majority Zaza)

It's funny how you people call this census reliable. No words. And I still CAN'T find official census from Turkish Statistical Institute which is mentioned by Redthoreau. Please restore my edit. Beshogur (talk) 10:17, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Beshogur, as Wiki editors it is not our role to “research” claims and make personal judgments on their accuracy, that would fall under WP:OR. We are simply here to echo the published sources. You are free however to locate the census by the Turkish Statistical Institute if you believe it is cited incorrectly.  Redthoreau -- (talk) 23:33, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Come on man, I ask for fifth time for the orginal research. Can you provide my a link, I promise I won't remove. Beshogur (talk) 23:47, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Beshogur, I tried to locate the study referenced by the Rudaw journalist, and --> this link was the closest thing I could locate. Because I did not see any references to a Kurdish ethnicity in the figures, I have decided to remove the disputed EKurd article myself, in favor of a better source anyway, that of the Kurdish Institute of Paris. Hopefully, this resolves the issue.  Redthoreau -- (talk) 03:50, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok at least you know that Ekurd article was false. I've tried several times to say this. You can add anything else. You're welcome. Beshogur (talk) 11:10, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

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Kurds of Central Anatolia

Any reason to have Kurds of Central Anatolia separate? A section at the main article suffices.--Zoupan 23:41, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

I suppose that the initial reason was that the Kurd from Anatolia had a distinct origin from those elsewhere in Turkey (history section argues back to the 12th century, which is much earlier than the main Turkey page). Nevertheless, having all the material discussed on the same page, or at least linked better (summary/main format) would be a good idea. So, I'm neutral on whether there is a merge, but if not merged then the link between the articles should be improved. Klbrain (talk) 13:57, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Given no objection for the merge,  Done Klbrain (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Geography

Under "Regions with significant populations" eastern and southeastern anatolia are mentioned. But those areas are called like that by the turkish government, and that was more of a political decision by Turkey. The Area that kurds inhabit in Turkey is called upper mesopotamia. Shouldn't that Term be used instead?

Aziz Sancar is not an ethnic Kurd

His ethnic origin is explained in his Wiki article.Bertan92 (talk) 15:31, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Darsim Rebellion/Darsim Massacre

There's a line that says the Darsim Massacre is frequently confused for the Darsim Rebellion, but both of them link to the article for the Darsim Rebellion. Some clarification would be good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:99D2:B800:845C:9A67:9FEA:79E6 (talk) 04:27, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Bahar Source

Hi there, I am wondering who introduced the Bahar Source p63. I could access the book here and there is no mention about the words Kurdistan, Kurds and Kurdish forbidden. He maybe misread the page number or has an other edition but the ISBN are the same though, I don't know. I introduced then a source where it really says that the words Kurdistan and Kurds are forbidden, but Kurdish was allowed. But the Bahar source got reintroduced again. Would anybody mind If I exit the Bahar source citing the forbidding of the words Kurds and Kurdistan on page 63? The words Kurds and Kurdistan sure were forbidden, but it doesn't say there. At least I couldn't find it. If anybody wants to double-check, feel free. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:37, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I think I know where the problem was with the Bahar source. The editor first found a source stating that the words Kurds and Kurdistan were forbidden, put in the page number, but then did just re-use the source and changed the page number from there to 63. Then also the page number of the first source gets changed. In the page 63 it states that pro-Kurdish parties were banned from the 1990s to the early 2000 where the source is used the second and last time in the article. Could we now remove the Bahar source p. 63 that states wrongly that the word Kurds and Kurdistan were banned, because it doesn't say so in the source ? I really would not like it if it was reverted again. Thank you. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 21:41, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Revert done by User:Shadow4dark

Hi @Semsûrî and Thepharoah17: Since I'm not active here I don't have the rights. Can one of you please add this map to the page? Shadow4dark and Beshogur are trying to get it deleted for being "disputed" but as far as I see there is nothing wrong with it. Thank you. --Balyozxane (talk) 04:02, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

"A Turkish Kurdish girl with blonde hair." from file "Kurdish child"

There is a picture of a Kurdish girl, however the title seems odd. "Turkish Kurdish girl with blonde hair". Can it not simply be Kurdish girl or Kurdish child as the original file is named?

Ji Qinzêrîb Zarokek

TataofTata (talk) 02:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

•  Done Changed it. Beshogur (talk) 12:00, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 August 2021

” within the region viewed by Kurds as Turkish Kurdistan.”

No kurd ever views it as Turkish Kurdistan. It’s either Turkish-occupied Kurdistan or Bakuri Kurdistan!

It’s a lie to say that Kurds view it in that way! 2A00:801:72A:9C30:61F9:540D:7D32:AE8D (talk) 09:32, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:37, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Kurdish villages depopulated by Turkey

Worth adding under 'Demographics' a section about depopulated villages:

Further information: Kurdish villages depopulated by Turkey

TataofTata (talk) 17:03, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Unsourced map should be removed or caption updated

The map is not part of the source it cites below it. It needs its own source or should be removed. İstemekistiyorum (talk) 03:57, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Separate article for Kurds of (Central) Anatolia

I think a separate article is necessary for the Kurds of Central Anatolia. There are separate pages for Kurds of Khorasan and Kurds in Istanbul, and there is very little reason for this to not be the case. Aintabli (talk) 15:00, 11 May 2023 (UTC)