Talk:Konstantin Dejanović

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Middle More Rider in topic Name

Son or Daughter edit

Looking at the history of this article, it seems there's been a protracted disagreement over the gender(s) and name(s) of Constantine's offspring. I don't suppose anyone has a source they can cite? Or is this something where there's no definitive historical record, but two competing hypotheses? The Literate Engineer 02:25, 23 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Name edit

  • Konstantin Dejanović 78 results (+Константин Дејановић 81 results, Дејановић Константин 16 results)
  • Konstantin Dejanov 3 results (+Константин Дејанов 6 results)
  • Konstantin Dragaš 98 results (+Константин Драгаш 78 results, Драгаш Константин 39)
  • Konstantin Dragash 15 results
  • Constantine Dragaš 54 results (Dragaš Constantine 21 results)
  • Constantine Dragash 30 results (Dragash Constantine 2 results)
  • Constantine Dejanović 31 results (Dejanović Constantine 12 results)
  • Scholar: Konstantin Dragaš 24; Constantine Dragaš 18; Konstantin Dejanović 15; Constantine Dragash 7;

My conclusion is that Konstantin Dragaš is the most suitable name.--Zoupan 06:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hmmm, well, "Konstantin Dragaš" includes also many Serbo-Croatian, German and French articles, and if you count the Dragaš/Dragash varieties together, the difference is rather non-existent. It seems to me that in English, and given the English habit of anglicizing the first name, "Constantine" remains the best option. Constantine 16:07, 29 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

The article title is confusing and a hinderance to people who just want information on Constantine Dragaš as he is usually known in English and this being the English version of Wikipedia. His name was Constantine Dejanović Dragaš, more usually and mostly known as Constantine Dragaš, but not often as Constantine Dejanović. Middle More Rider (talk) 08:28, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Drink water from the well - for "Serbian ruler" Konstantin Dragash edit

Information from the Turkish historian Hoca Sadeddin Efendi (1) in his chronicle Crown of Histories about the Bulgarian character of North Macedonia at the time of Constantine Deyan (2) 17th c.

Indeed, the Kyustendil ruler, known by the name of Constantine and famous for possessing extensive lands and spahis (warriors - editor's note), was the supreme ruler in the Bulgarian region and was in possession of the lands in which the Tala and Nakra mines were situated ...

(Yordan Ivanov (literary historian), The Bulgarians in Macedonia), Sofia, 1917, p. 162; the original is in Turkish

1. The author of travel notes 2. Constantine Deyan, ruler of the Velbuzhd principality in south-western Bulgaria, who became a Turkish vassal and died in 1394 in the war against the Wallachian chieftain Mircea I of Wallachia. Angel Angel 2 (talk) 02:00, 24 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

The mother of Konstantin Dragash was Teodora-Evdokija, daughter of King Stefan Dečanski of Serbia by his second wife, Maria Palaiologina. His father was magnate Dejan from Kumanovo region, who served Emperor Stefan Dušan as sevastokrator, and Emperor Uroš V (r. 1355–71) as despot. How did Konstantin Dragash become a Bulgarian? You will have to rewrite a hundred articles.--Nicoljaus (talk) 08:29, 24 December 2019 (UTC)Reply