Talk:KOMO-TV

2005 unsourced claims

An anon user has added several claims for firsts and awards for KOMO to the article. I gotta say, without seeing some sources being cited for those claims, that I'm somewhat skeptical of them.

Some of the firsts being mentioned are also ambiguous. Were they the first to do it in Seattle-Tacoma? The Northwest? The country? Also, I do know that KOMO's been claiming its newscasts as being rated "the best in America", but I forget who it was that did the rating.

Perhaps the anon user (or someone else) would be kind enough to provide some sources for those claims in the article?

- Hinto 22:10, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

This is probably about a year late, but I was the one who'd added those "Broadcasting firsts" portion of the KOMO TV Wikipedia entry. When I was young, I'd done a project on the history of KOMO TV and decided to write to KOMO TV for as much information as possible. They were more than happy to oblige, and sent me tons of old station memorabilia in addition to several dozen newspaper clippings citing the new innovations KOMO has led the industry with. Many of those newspaper and article clippings came from sources like the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Seattle Times, and several broadcast trade publications of that time. Srosenow 98 05:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Broadcasting scheduling change

I've heard that KOMO says that they're changing the 5pm newscast to 30 minutes, moving ABC's World News with Charles Gibson to 5:30 pm, and put a 6pm newscast (for a full hour). They're confirmed as of now, and I seen a promotional campaign that they're changing the structure. They're not going to change the "First News at 4" scheduling. I think they're going competitive against KIRO-TV, which was the first station to broadcast a newscast at 6pm, with its slogan named "The Only Local News and Weather at 6". But with KOMO-TV changing its evening news structure, I think KIRO-TV should remove its current slogan because of KOMO-TV's 6pm newscast entry.

This was their previously evening news format had:

• 4:00 pm: First News at 4
• 5:00 pm: KOMO 4 News at 5pm
• 6:00 pm: World News with Charles Gibson (previously World News Tonight)
• 6:30 pm: KOMO 4 News at 6:30pm

This is the new scheduling as of now: (changes in red)

• 4:00 pm: First News at 4
• 5:00 pm: KOMO 4 News at 5pm (shortened to 30 minutes for a quick rundown)
• 5:30 pm: World News with Charles Gibson (new time)
• 6:00 pm: KOMO 4 News at 6pm (new: moved the second half of current KOMO 4 News at 5pm to 6:00 pm; to be competitive with KIRO 7 Eyewitness News at 6)

Source: [1] - Note that these schedules may be subject to change without notice; however, KOMO 4 might not change its new format as of now. --Bigtop 19:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Update: KIRO-TV removed the "Only Local News and Weather at 6" slogan recently; found evidence (yesterday) by having the introduction a shared 6am/6pm ident. --Bigtop 00:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Update: KOMO-TV says that they will make the big changes as of August 14, 2006. I think this will be a more competitive format. --Bigtop 18:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

New image

I've been thinking of a newer logo because of the new appearance released today. Could you try to look it up at various sources, like http://www.komotv.com? Thanks. Bigtop 02:41, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible to create a Wikipedia Commons entry to KOMO TV? I have LOADS of available logos from their past, as well as images of their previous sets, etc. With that said, I would like to expand on the "logos" portion as well.Srosenow 98 05:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

NPOV, no sources cited

I've plowed through and tried to remove all the POV issues. This piece makes a lot of (sometimes outrageous) claims that need to be cited, or should be removed. Boisemedia 02:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I was the one who'd added those "Broadcasting firsts" (Later renamed "History") portion of the KOMO TV Wikipedia entry. When I was young, I'd done a project on the history of KOMO TV and decided to write to KOMO TV for as much information as possible. They were more than happy to oblige, and sent me tons of old station memorabilia in addition to several dozen newspaper clippings citing the new innovations KOMO has led the industry with. Many of those newspaper and article clippings came from sources like the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Seattle Times, and several broadcast trade publications of that time. Unfortunately, most of the material used to create a large portion of this article is not available for instant reference online.

Additionally, much of the information contained herein is my own personal knowledge about the station, which goes back to childhood. The Keith Eldridge/Skokomish River portion of this article is a fact because I was there along with Eldridge and several other Mason County residents when he was stranded. I can even vividly recall their old Newstar4 satellite truck parked across from my house for a couple days while their crews waited for Highway 101 to reopen.

The discovery by KOMO news photographer to develop color film in a matter of hours instead of days back in 1957? That was shown repeatedly during the station's 40th anniversary back in December of 1993 (again on their 50th in December of 2003), and again when KOMO announced that they were moving out of the old KOMO building and into Fisher Plaza (which was built on the site of the old KOMO building's parking lot). During both instances, KOMO showed an incredible amount of old archival footage.

The fact that Dan Lewis became the first American journalist to interview then-newly-elected President Clinton in the Oval Office is widely known in the broadcasting industry, and for years was a part of Dan Lewis' own biography at KOMO's own website. (See link here: Dan Lewis' own bio courtesy Archive.ORG, from the KOMO website in 1996)[|Dan Lewis biography from the KOMO website in 1996, courtesy Archive.ORG]

In doubt of Eric Johnson being listed in the credits of "Prefontaine"? See [| this link ].

If you're in doubt of anything else in this article, contact KOMO themselves and I'm sure they'll be happy to oblige in supplying the footage of that particular event, or anything else in this article you may be in question over.

Their address is:

KOMO-TV

140 4th Avenue North

Seattle, WA 98109.

With that said, I'm removing the "sources needed" tags.

Srosenow 98 05:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

• Another thing, some sources(i.e., Newsblues)say that the station may have slipped to third in the local news ratings behind a resurgent KIRO-TV(which has even at times threatened to knock KING-TV out of first)in recent years, and this fact has been largely ignored in this article... Ranma9617 18:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

All entries on Wikipedia must be verifiable and may not include original research. When I have a moment, I will be re-adding the citation needed tags -- and then the content will be removed if verification cannot be provided. Boisemedia 07:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

This article almost got a {{totally-disputed}}

Instead, I put a missing info tag. This article conveniently forgets how their newscasts have done historically and in recent rating periods... Ranma9617 01:46, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not a matter of "conveniently forgetting" as you put it. It's a matter of there being no real web-based source of information to go from in terms of citing.

I can certainly say without a shadow of a doubt though that for most of the 1980s leading into the very late 1990s, KOMO was the leader in TV news for the Seattle market. I can also add with certainty that while KING 5 News consistently ran "Number One at 5 o'clock..." voiceover tags during their news intros, it was infact KOMO that led the ratings race (predominantly due to the fact that during much of the 1980s and 1990s, ABC News was the most-watched network news organization).

It's also worthy to note that in 1996, KOMO held the top spot nationally for "Best Newscast" and infact won that title six out of eight years in a row. Also, in 1995 and 1996, KOMO won 18 emmy awards, including the top six, and consistently beats KING in annual emmy award counts.

I'm not here to start a flame war with anybody nor an edit war, but I've noticed a considerable amount of bias against KOMO on Wikipedia. Srosenow 98 09:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Violate NPOV?

The following statement should at least be sourced and probably deleted: "After being purchased by Fisher Broadcasting, KOMO News began demonstrating a noticeably more conservative and sensationalistic bent to their news." 71.142.91.222 03:49, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I deleted it outright. KOMO has always been a Fisher station - even before KOMO TV was a forethought. Whoever added that (and the nonsensical, full of dribble babble about Natasha Curry) should be IP blocked from Wikipedia for good. Srosenow 98 07:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Newscasts in HD??

I'm still confused about this. Everything I've heard indicates that KOMO's local newscasts are only 16x9 SD, not HD. Sure, they may be on the digital channel, but they're still SD. See page 3: NATASNW Monitor May 2007. -Joshuadkelley (talk) 07:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that their newscasts are not in HD, I do believe the only station in Seattle with HD newscasts is KING. --Emarsee ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 16:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

KOMO has been broadcasting its newscasts in HD since May of 1999(http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1999_May_24/ai_54715957). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twudude (talk • contribs) 22:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

There are too many conflicting arguments on that for me to believe the newscasts are truly in HD. I think that article has some incorrect information in, confusing a digital signal broadcasting HD video and newscasts themselves being in HD. Unfortunately, I don't have an HD set to verify for sure, but I'd like to hear from someone who DOES. - Joshuadkelley (talk) 06:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

In an e-mail sent to me about 1 year ago from a KOMO TV Engineer, the Local news is broadcast in 16x9 SD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.153.87.191 (talk) 09:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Where's Dave Crockett now?

What happened to Dave Crockett after 1980? Is he still alive? Bizzybody (talk) 07:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Morning co-anchor

It appears either Brad Goode or Peggy Bunker will be leaving KOMO soon. On the Fisher Communications Career page KOMO is looking for a Morning Co-Anchor for weekdays 4:30-7:00 a.m. and report for the 11:00 a.m.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewgu111 (talk • contribs) 07:58, 30 January 2013‎ (UTC)

March 2014 ENG helicopter crash

As of now, no details have yet been released on the possible cause of the helicopter crash that took the lives of two KOMO-TV staffers. Watch the NTSB monthly listing for March 2014 for the preliminary accident report. — Quicksilver^{T @} 21:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Here it is, posted today: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20140318X21532&key=1  — Quicksilver^{T @} 06:09, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

KOMO-TV logo (Sept. 2015)

Can someone provide multiple reliable sources for "this new logo" for KOMO-TV? I have yet to see one and the website still shows the logo currently in the article. Thanks. Corkythehornetfan 22:44, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

I can show you a video of their newscast if you want. Not sure if that is reliable enough, though. There are also signs on Facebook pointing to the change. I don't know; Sinclair may take a while to even update their website. SmartAn01 (talk) 22:52, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Please provide a link the video. I'll agree to keep the new logo if I see the video. Corkythehornetfan 23:15, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

I don't know. Can I send the video directly to you, as I recorded it myself, or do I have to upload to YouTube? SmartAn01 (talk) 00:45, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

You can email it to me. Just go to my talk page and on the lefthand side under the "Tools" section and click "Email This User". It is unanimous so I won't see yours and you won't see mine. Corkythehornetfan 01:25, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Am I still required to supply a link? I'm looking at the page now, and it doesn't show any attachment button. SmartAn01 (talk) 02:18, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Probably so. I'll take your guys's word on this new logo thing for now (although I'm still not sure right now), but the SVG will need work. It is almost unreadable with that white streak through the middle of the image. Regardless if that is in the actual logo, I think the letters just need to be a solid gray.

@Don-Don: Since you are the user who uploaded the new logo, please comment about my comments towards the logo. Corkythehornetfan 04:05, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Corky and SmartAn01. I did my faithful recreation of the new KOMO 4 logo. In fact, I did not only the 3D vector recreation with the wordmark colored in the silver-white hybrid, but the 2D vector recreation as well with the wordmark colored in black. It may take weeks for the KOMO News website to be updated by replacing the past KOMO 4 and KOMO Newsradio logos with the new ones. Don-Don (talk) 05:02, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

There's a better version of the logo here: http://www.adweek.com/tvspy/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/10/KOMO-logo.jpg Rebel shadow 20:27, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

@Don-Don: I would have to agree with Rebel shadow. Would you mind using this one instead? Corkythehornetfan 23:04, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay, sure. With your permission (and that of AdWeek), I shall do a faithful recreation of the all-black KOMO 4 logo. Don-Don (talk) 04:13, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

JerMolly2014 edits

Can you please explain your edits here, JerMolly2014? I have no idea what most of the edits you did on the article are, and some of them might be unnecessary or need to be backed with a reference. SmartAn01 (talk) 01:18, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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