Talk:John Shoop

Creating a more accurate and complete biography

This biography is not complete and the information provided has been skewed toward a negative view of this person. I would like to propose that the information below replace the current content. This information can be verified from www.tarheelblue.com or from the University of North Carolina Athletic Department.

John Shoop is an American football coach who has coached in the National Football League and at the collegiate level. He currently serves as the Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. In Shoop’s offense players like Hakeem Nicks, the 2008 all-conference wide receiver, set 14 school records and was a first round draft pick in the NFL draft. Quarterback T.J. Yates set over 30 school records. Yates along with several offensive players were drafted into the NFL after the 2010 season. During Shoop’s tenure, the Carolina offense has set over 60 school records. Shoop came to Chapel Hill from the Oakland Raiders where he served as Quarterbacks Coach in 2005, the Tight Ends Coach in 2006, and as Offensive Coordinator for the final five games of the 2006 season. Shoop was Quarterbacks Coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2004 under head coach Jon Gruden. He worked five seasons (1999-2003) for the Chicago Bears under head coach Dick Jauron. He served as the Quarterbacks Coach in 1999 and 2000. He was named Offensive Coordinator for the last four games of the 2000 season. He spent the next three seasons as the Offensive Coordinator (2001-03). At the time, he was one of the youngest coordinators in NFL history. Shoop helped lead the Bears to the NFC Central Division title with a 13-3 record. That season tailback Anthony Thomas was named Offensive Rookie of the Year. Also in 2002 wide receiver Marty Booker became the first Chicago receiver to go to the Pro Bowl since 1971. Prior to joining the Bears, Shoop spent four seasons with the Carolina Panthers, where he began his NFL coaching career at the age of 25. Shoop was an Offensive Quality Control Assistant for the Panthers in 1995-96 and he helped lead the team to the NFC Championship Game in 1996. He served as Quarterbacks Coach for Carolina from 1997-98. Shoop began his coaching career as a volunteer Quarterbacks Coach at Dartmouth College in 1991. He served as a Graduate Assistant at Vanderbilt University from 1992-94, where he earned a Master of Education degree from Vanderbilt’s Peabody School of Education. A native of Oakmont, Pa., Shoop graduated from the University of the South in 1991, where he played quarterback.

MWMS537 (talk) 19:52, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

MWMS537 - could you please point out exactly what information in the article you consider slanted or negative? The proposed wording above seems overly promotional in nature, in that it solely endorses Shoop's accomplishments and contains WP:PUFFERY (essentially it insinuates that Shoop is responsible for the ongoing success of specific players). In order to meet Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, please ensure that any information added to the article is neutral and includes a reliable source for verification. Once again, as noted on your talk page, original research cannot be used in articles, and directly editing pages on individuals with whom you are affiliated is discouraged. Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide has additional information. Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:04, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

If you go back to your archives and look at the information that was up for this biography today before the edits began it was negatively slanted and only talked about things fans blamed him for in Chicago. I have edited the biography to take out mention of any players. Hopefully this is acceptable.

John Shoop is an American football coach who has coached in the National Football League and at the collegiate level. He currently serves as the Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Shoop came to Chapel Hill from the Oakland Raiders where he served as Quarterbacks Coach in 2005, the Tight Ends Coach in 2006, and as Offensive Coordinator for the final five games of the 2006 season. Shoop was Quarterbacks Coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2004 under head coach Jon Gruden. He worked five seasons (1999-2003) for the Chicago Bears under head coach Dick Jauron. He served as the Quarterbacks Coach in 1999 and 2000. He was named Offensive Coordinator for the last four games of the 2000 season. He spent the next three seasons as the Offensive Coordinator (2001-03). Prior to joining the Bears, Shoop spent four seasons with the Carolina Panthers, where he began his NFL coaching career at the age of 25. Shoop was an Offensive Quality Control Assistant for the Panthers in 1995-96. He served as Quarterbacks Coach for Carolina from 1997-98. Shoop began his coaching career as a volunteer Quarterbacks Coach at Dartmouth College in 1991. He served as a Graduate Assistant at Vanderbilt University from 1992-94, where he earned a Master of Education degree from Vanderbilt’s Peabody School of Education. A native of Oakmont, Pa., Shoop graduated from the University of the South in 1991, where he played quarterback.

I apologize for not signing the last post. I will repost with correct signature. Thank you.

If you go back to your archives and look at the information that was up for this biography today before the edits began it was negatively slanted and only talked about things fans blamed him for in Chicago. I have edited the biography to take out mention of any players. Hopefully this is acceptable.

John Shoop is an American football coach who has coached in the National Football League and at the collegiate level. He currently serves as the Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Shoop came to Chapel Hill from the Oakland Raiders where he served as Quarterbacks Coach in 2005, the Tight Ends Coach in 2006, and as Offensive Coordinator for the final five games of the 2006 season. Shoop was Quarterbacks Coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2004 under head coach Jon Gruden. He worked five seasons (1999-2003) for the Chicago Bears under head coach Dick Jauron. He served as the Quarterbacks Coach in 1999 and 2000. He was named Offensive Coordinator for the last four games of the 2000 season. He spent the next three seasons as the Offensive Coordinator (2001-03). Prior to joining the Bears, Shoop spent four seasons with the Carolina Panthers, where he began his NFL coaching career at the age of 25. Shoop was an Offensive Quality Control Assistant for the Panthers in 1995-96. He served as Quarterbacks Coach for Carolina from 1997-98. Shoop began his coaching career as a volunteer Quarterbacks Coach at Dartmouth College in 1991. He served as a Graduate Assistant at Vanderbilt University from 1992-94, where he earned a Master of Education degree from Vanderbilt’s Peabody School of Education. A native of Oakmont, Pa., Shoop graduated from the University of the South in 1991, where he played quarterback.

Thank you again. MWMS537 (talk) 22:39, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

That's much better! All you need now is to include your references. A reference can be added at the end of any sentence it supports (this is called inline citation). If after reading the instructions in that link you are unsure how to format an inline citation, you can alternatively include your sources under a header titled "References". Do what you can, and I'll help fix any that are incorrectly formatted. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 13:59, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. All of the information can be verified at www.tarheelblue.com I put that in the references section earlier. Do I need to do anything else? Thank you for your help. MWMS537 (talk) 15:25, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I've integrated your material into the article and added some internal links and extra sources. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)