Talk:Johan Wilhelm Colenbrander

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 12:29, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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• Johannes Wilhelm Colenbrander
• Symbol of Sacrifice

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Colenbrander as Lord Chelmsford in the film

• ... that Lieutenant-Colonel Johannes Wilhelm Colenbrander (pictured) and two others died on camera during the filming of the 1918 war movie Symbol of Sacrifice? Source: "Colenbrander was employed by the film to advise on the management of the African extras and agrred to take a small role as Lord Chelmsford. Tragically, it was to be his last adventure; on 10 February 1918 he was filming a scene where Chelmsford and his staff crossed the White Mfolozi river prior to the battle of Ulundi when his horse stumbled in the strong current and he was swept away and drowned – all before the lens of the camera." from: Knight, Ian (16 October 2008). Companion to the Anglo-Zulu War. Pen and Sword. pp. 134–135. ISBN 978-1-4738-1331-1. "Colenbrander, playing Chelmsford, was drowned with two others while filming a scene at the Klip River" from: Beckett, Ian F. W. (2019). Rorke's Drift and Isandlwana. Oxford University Press. pp. 134–135. ISBN 978-0-19-879412-7.
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Created by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 10:01, 14 January 2022 (UTC).

• hook has been verified. Articles are long enough, new enough, cited to reliable sources, and earwigs suggests no copyvio. QPQs have been conducted. Hook is interesting. Image is appropriately licensed, but pretty poor quality and I'd suggest promoting without, though discretion could be used. Good to go either way. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

To T:DYK/P1 without image

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Johannes Wilhelm Colenbrander/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Zawed (talk · contribs) 09:22, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I will take this one, comments to follow in due course. Zawed (talk) 09:22, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Time has gotten away on me again here, some comments as follows:

Lead

• Add a bracketed translation for inkosi, (chief)

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Early life

• link indigo? I'm not sure what an indigo plantation is, and I may not be the only one.

Linked to Indigo dye - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Zululand

• ...made a Zulu chief by King Cetshwayo: suggest "made a chief by Cetshwayo, the king of the Zulus."

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• ...Zulu Inkosi: as per the comment in the lead, suggest a bracketed English-translation for Inkosi

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• In 1883 he married Mollie Mullins.: don't suppose there is any context to who Mullins was? Daughter of settlers or an Anglo official?

Added a little more I found on her - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Rhodesia

• Colenbrander worked for a period: suggest "Colenbrander then worked for a period"

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• accompanied two of his inDuna to England: suggest a bracketed English-translation for inDuna

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• in the 1893-1894 war: change to endash style

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• at one point having a horse shot from under him.: any more context on this or his duties with the police?

Nothing in the current sources. I've since discovered there was a biography of him published in 1961 and have ordered a copy so possibly room for future expansion of the article - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• the rank of Captain: lower case for captain in this usage, also link

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Second Boer War

• During the Second Boer War (1899-1902)...: endash for the date range

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• link lieutenant-colonel, General

Done - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• 5 Boers: elsewhere in this section, small numbers are written out.

Later life

• I see he remarries twice in this section, any context on his wives, particularly the fate of Nunn?

managed to find a new source that covers a bit more on his wives and expanded this a little - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

References

• Is ref 14 a self-piublished source? Otherwise generally look OK and most are pretty modern which I think will be important here.

Yep, I missed that. He comes up with some military history credentials but I've replaced this - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

• Ref 1: Natural or National? Same applies to ref 7

Weird! Fixed - Dumelow (talk) 07:16, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

• I note ref 3 needs an endash in the date range. Ditto refs 10 and 12

Fixed - Dumelow (talk) 07:16, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

• Some book sources are missing place of publication

Got all these. I've tried to track down the actual journal article in "African Review" but no luck so far - Dumelow (talk) 07:16, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Other stuff

• Image tags OK
• One dupe link: Pietersburg

Removed - Dumelow (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

That's it for me, placing on hold. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 21:39, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Zawed. I think I've addressed most things above, my internets a bit flaky at the moment so I'll leave it there for now and try to address the remainder in the morning - Dumelow (talk) 23:28, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Zawed, think that's everything now. I've added some new content sou would be glad of a quick review of that if you can. Many thanks - Dumelow (talk) 07:16, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

So sorry, while searching for photographs I found a few tidbits from contemporary newspapers, including coverage of a fraud trial that I've incorporated. Wary of relying too much on contemporary sources but I think it was worth including. I'd appreciate your review of this - Dumelow (talk) 10:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

I made a few tweaks but otherwise looks all in order so am passing as GA. Merry Xmas! Zawed (talk) 09:55, 24 December 2022 (UTC)