Talk:Jacopo Saltarelli

Leonardo Pic

I have deleted the pic because:

• user:Thyra uploaded it to Wiki Commons from a Blog Page.
• The blog writer says that it is called the Incarnate Angel and dates from about 1515.
• Art historians generally call the drawing the Incarnate Angel and date it at about 1515.
• user:Thora cites the blog page and yet calls it Jacopo Saltarelli, and coolly dates it 1475, about 40 years before its assumed date of creation.
• The pic closely relates to Leonardo's John the Baptist, a work of his old age. (ie 1515 not 1475)
• It almost certainly represents Leonardo's servant/companion Salai.
• if this picture is indeed 1475, then it is of great importance in Leonardo's oevre, as it would predate any existing drawing by four years.
• I am having great difficulty assuming good faith over this one! I have asked user:Thyra for an explanation as to why it was uploaded as Salatrelli and given a date forty years too early.

Amandajm (talk) 11:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

hangon

I saw another contributor said he or she was considering deleting this article, asserting the individual was not notable.

It reminded me of an {{afd}} I participated in a few years ago. That {{afd}} claimed an author from the 19th Century wasn't notable -- because he barely rated a handful of passing references through his google search. And the reply I found convincing and very memorable agreed that any author, writing today, who generated that few hits, would not be notable. But, given how rapidly books go out of print they suggested any 19th Century author who is still remembered at all today should be considered notable.

So, should the same hold true of Mr Saltarelli? Geo Swan (talk) 20:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

A glance through Archive.org's OCR transcriptions of books shows Saltarelli dealt with in "Leonardo The Florentine A Study In Personality", "Leonardo Da Vinci An Account Of His Development", "LENOARDO DA VINCI THE TRAGIC PURSUIT OF PERFECTION" and a number of non-English works. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 00:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I would apply another test: how likely is it that someone will want to find out more information about this man. Considering his pivotal role in the early life of Da Vinci (it landed him in jail) I would imagine there would be quite a few curious. Is there a way to see how many people have accessed an article? Haiduc (talk) 02:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Henrik's Wikipedia article traffic statistics shows daily traffic for any month. It shows Jacopo Saltarelli had about 30 hits each day, and 848 in all of June. Leonardo da Vinci gets over 10,000 daily. 84user (talk) 07:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

The article is still getting between 12-30 hits a day. Amandajm (talk) 12:00, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Male prostitute?

The complaint says he lives with his brother goldsmith (apprentice). There is said to have compensation. Why then is called a male prostitute?--Enrique Cordero (talk) 12:17, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

The Saltarelli File still existing?

Does the Salterelli File still exist? In which Italian archive can it be found? Was Leonardo da Vinci interrogated by the authorities? Was Saltarelli a "top" or a "bottom"?—Ana Bruta (talk) 14:13, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

The question of whether the Saltarelli file still exists is very interesting. I have no idea.

As for your other question, I feel drawn to enquire if you ask the same question of gay men of your acquaintance.

Amandajm (talk) 01:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)