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editIs this a real language, or just an Italian dialect? Is it more closely related to Italian, or to Friulian? john k 15:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Of course it's not an Italian dialect, the only real dialects of Italian that exist are Corsican and Gaddurese & Sassarese (those both considered dialects of Corsican but spoken on the northern coast of Sardigna. Every other local 'dialect' spoken in Italy is actually a distinct Romance language like Sicilian, Neapolitan, Piemonteis, etc. which have been repressed since unification out of fears that they would encourage separatist movements. Ironically the Northern League uses this language repression as a political tool, encouraging the northern Italians to learn their local Gallo-Italic languages.
I actually came here to ask if Istriot was more closely related to Venetian or Dalmation; is it a transitional language between the two or only close to one? Seek100 17:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- It's a good question and I would like to know as well. We know that it is not related to Istro-Romanian, but that can be put down to the fact that Istro-Romanian ancestors arrived about a thousands years ago, where-as Istriot ancestors may have been there before the Slavs - or possibly they came along with the Venetians and are descendants from old Venice. There again, extinct Dalmatian is said to have been a link between western and eastern Romance languages and so the Romanian may be the one which is actually connected to Dalmatian and not Istriot. Istriot's origin is as yet obscure and I cannot clarify its connection to related near-by dialects unless someone throws light. 212.24.91.2 16:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
In my view, after reading the linguistic material provided here and under other entries of Wiki, Istriot and Dalmatian (Vegliota), may be related quite closely to Friulan, not to the various Vlach or Romanian languages. They are not related to Italian Venetian dialects either. More South Dalmatian language, judging for example from a letter quoted on Italian Wiki look more closely related to central-southern Italian dialects. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.163.8.110 (talk) 11:41, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- It's hard to really tell; its origins are quite obscure and there doesn't seem to be good scholarly material on it, especially on its history. It was often overshadowed by Venetian and to an extent Italian and Dalmatian. A lot of its words are very similar if not identical to Venetian, but I'm thinking this may be just because it received tons of loan words from it, due to the power and prestige of Venice throughout the Adriatic historically. I'm leaning toward the theory that it's actually more in a genetic grouping (linguistically) with Dalmatian, as some of its most basic vocabulary has similarities to some Dalmatian words, but because it received so much influence from Venetian, it became closer to it over time, and that heavy influence obscures much of its original character. I do also note similarities to Friulian and the Rhaeto-Romance languages but those also have similarities to Venetian, whether by origin or through close cohabitation and influence. The exact linguistic relationship between all these languages and their origins is still uncertain. But I can definitely say that Istriot is not close to the true Eastern Romance or Romanian languages. Dalmatian has a few more similarities, which may be superficial, but it may have been a link between them. I'm trying to find a good source that has a list of its vocabulary/lexicon but can't find one. Word dewd544 (talk) 20:58, 5 June 2016 (UTC)