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Merge NoticeEdit

Just added a metge notice at the top. People are more likely to look under Hyperspace than Hyperdrive, ya? Davidpk212 20:31, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm inclined to think the merge is good idea. With redirects, of course, so that looking up "hyperdrive" would link you to the "hyperspace" article. KarlBunker 22:34, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I vote against the merge/move for now. There are currently three articles on traditional science fiction FTL drives: jump drive, warp drive, and hyperdrive. Hyperdrive is as relevant a search term as hyperspace. I agree that hyperdrive and hyperspace are related concepts but even if merged that does not mean that the term "Hyperdrive" should only go to the BBC TV series. If anything, we may need a disambiguation page. Rillian 22:58, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

If the proposal has one more vote, I'll do the business and merge it. Davidpk212 18:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Merging, even though it didn't get another vote. Davidpk212 16:44, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I undid the merge to continue the discussion. Two votes after just three days of discussion does not constitute a consensus. Rillian 22:58, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
I think Rillian has some good points, so I'll change my vote to no merge. KarlBunker 23:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Nothing about StargateEdit

This article should include something about its usage in Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis. Tobyk777 06:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

On the topic of the Stargate section, i think that one or two things need to be changed about it because it uses a lot of in-universe language that people who dont watch the show wouldnt understand. For instance, it calls humans 'the Tau'ri' which would make no sense to an average reader who does not follow stargate, it should just be changed simply to Humans. It also talks about ZPMs but does not clearly mention that a ZPM is an advanced power source. --Zoobz19 (talk) 13:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

History of the conceptEdit

The current organization of the article is kind of useless, as it gives no sense of the history or development of the concept, just giving a bunch of different uses of it in apparently random order. Wouldn't it make sense to (at least) put all these usages in chronological order, if not to actually try to determine what the original usage of the term is? john k 23:17, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I think Asimov first popularized the idea. I agree that this article is sadly lacking when it comes to a history of the concept. Onionhound 20:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

This is a MessEdit

Why are all these diferent fictional universes listed here ? This topic should be better organized and the specifi information moved to the correct location in the series/universe tree. — Written by anonymous (200.198.94.130) 2006-05-30 01:55:34

  • I agree, the fictional universe info doesn't belong here. Some of the information could be used to briefly summarize the development of the concept better. Reorganization is needed. — Written by Onionhound 2006-06-10 05:35:45
  • The Warhammer paragraph especially needs rewriting. It's a huge single paragraph. Very difficult and uninviting to read. —Bisqwit 16:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I tried to rework the Warhammer paragraph as best I could but it's unwieldly and needs an expert. I agree with Anon and Onionhound. Most of the info here belongs elsewhere. I don;t object to the format but perhaps it would be better to have a sentence or two, compares interesting/notable similarities/differences and link to elsewhere? Palendrom 01:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I tend to think of hyperspace as a sci-fi concept. Is there anything in the Warcraft universe that specifically states it is related to hyperspace, and not merely to some magical plane? If not, I say let it go! On a related issue, would now be a good time to create a hyperspace in computer and video games article to place some of these in fiction bits? Muad 05:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Tagged for cleanup due to spelling errors, use of first person, original "research", in-universe presentation, etc. 71.232.57.59 04:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Where have those tags gone? The spelling errors might have been cleaned up, but the rest of the (dare I say it...) crap remains. It's like sitting through an especially bad episode of Star Trek. CatBoris 17:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

The Erma Felna section is just plain wrong. Chrisweuve (talk) 11:44, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Hyperspace in Star Wars?Edit

Is this image accurate? I seem to remember star wars ships "jumping to light speed," (which presumably keeps them in truespace) not making use of any kind of hyperspace drive - though I could be mistaken. --NEMT 08:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

  • They call it a "jump to light speed" in the dialogue but refer to the mechanism that gets them there as a "hyperdrive," so it seems it could be interpreted various ways. In any case, the image is highly evocative of the concept. 24.124.16.165 08:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Instrumentality of MankindEdit

Is the section on Space2 in the Instrumentality universe accurate? I believe the rats/dragons of Space2 have nothing to do with the Great Pain of space from the era's of Scanners and Habermen. Wasn't the threat of the rats/dragons was first in the story "The Colonel Came Back from the Nothing-at-All"? Freelancepolice 21:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

  • And where are the spoiler warnings! Egads! Muad 05:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Please don't remove real world references.Edit

I just undid a revision that removed real world references within this fictional topic. The reason I did so was because the article has problems with being written largely in an "in-universe" (fictional) style. Reducing those complaints (tags), I feel, means providing as many out-of-universe (real world) references as we can. The editor's argument was "redundant". While I can agree the text is "a bit excessive" (not quite redundant), it's there for a good reason, I believe. —Aladdin Sane (talk) 15:25, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Known SpaceEdit

In the Known Space series by Larry Niven, first introduced in "The Coldest Place" (1964), hyperspace is ...

This is misleading in that "The Coldest Place" occurs (unless I misremember) before interstellar travel, before alien contact, and thus before hyperspace is known to humanity. Wouldn't it be better to cite the first Known Space story to mention hyperspace? —Tamfang (talk) 18:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Melissa Scott's HeavenEdit

If the listing of various fictional representations of hyperspace is retained (or moved elsewhere) an addition to it would be the concept of heaven in Melissa Scott's Silence Leigh trilogy. I read them quite some time ago (when they were new), but my recollection is that it was a unique representation of hyperspace, where essentially immersing your ship further into heaven gave greater objective velocity, and more skilled pilots had greater ability to push their ships into heaven via more powerful "spells." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.191.166.202 (talk) 19:00, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. Do the ships actually move faster than light? If you can source some 3rd party comments and analysis about it I can't see why it shouldn't be added. a_man_alone (talk) 20:43, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Hyper DicksEdit

Seriously, the arguing about this is terrible. And the popular shows detailed! So bad. And what about Doctor who, the best sci-fi show ever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.188.5.67 (talk) 19:16, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Homeworld series section deletedEdit

Hello

Article section "Homeworld series" is deleted in accordance to Wikipedia:Verifiability because of lack of source.

I (and most other reasonable Wikipedians) do not just nuke everything that does not have a citation footnote; some times, it is appropriate to add a {{Citation needed}} or {{Unreferenced section}}. But not this time. In comparison with the rest of the article, this section's prose had a far inferior quality, prompting me to search for its origin: The contribution on 16 May 2008. Comparing the two revision, it is obvious that the section is edited by at least two editors who had a different opinion of the matter and most of the section is potentially synthesized.

No prejudice against reinstating section with appropriate citations, with regard to WP:BURDEN. I might even consider renting the game(s) if verifiability required it.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 22:10, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Homeworld definitely belongs on here. The game literally calls it "hyperspace", and as it was the first ever 3D RTS (first ever depiction of what this article is about, as such) and extremely lauded and influential, it seems like a weird omission. Volound (talk) 08:08, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Confusion between hyperspace and subspaceEdit

Many parts of this article confuse the concepts of hyperspace (a high-dimensional space) with subspace (a lower dimensional space). Subspace, as used in science fiction such as Cordwainer Smith or presumably Star Trek, is based on a sending artifacts or messages through a spatial dimension below or under normal 3D space. Hyperspace is used to send artifacts or message through a spatial dimension above normal 3D space. These are two distinct concepts that have been conflated in this article. Either subspace concepts should be moved to a separate article or the title should be changed to indicate the article deals with a variety of fictional concepts about space time including both hyperspace and subspace. Steevithak (talk) 16:19, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Subspace (fictional) redirects to this article, but I think it is better to have these together. Keep in mind this is fictional science. See wiktionary:subspace and wiktionary:hyperspace for the actual definitions of these words. In this article these words mean what the author of a particular work intends them to mean. The parts of the article that use "subspace" are the "FreeSpace universe" section, the "Star Trek" section, the paragraph about "overdive" and the introduction to the "Other forms" section. The "FreeSpace universe" section and the "Star Trek" section only use the word "subspace" and do not mix it with hyperspace, so those are fine. The introduction to the "Other forms" section simply mentions the some authors use "subspace" for the same thing that other authors use "hyperspace". The paragraph about "overdive" is the only questionable use of the word subspace, unless Murray Leinster (the writer) used the word "subspace" to describe overdrive. The only other thing I can add is perhaps the article should be moved to "Faster-than-light travel (science fiction)" or "Faster-than-light travel in fiction". There is already an article "Interstellar travel in fiction", but it is just a list of lists. This could be merged into that. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:10, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

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