Talk:Hurricane Juan (1985)

Todo

Needs more on impact. Jdorje 20:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Better? Hurricanehink 02:55, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Problem

Problem... What should be done about its effects in the Mid-Atlantic region? It was related to the storm, though it was a renmant combined with another system. Some sites say Juan caused 62 deaths, including the mid-Atlantic flooding, but the NHC doesn't mention it at all (though they don't mention a lot of things some times). So what should we do? Hurricanehink 02:55, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Looks like most of that info (in the Appalachian section) is already covered. The only thing missing is clarification that this destruction was not necessarily due to the tropical system itself (likely the reason for no retirement). Jdorje 03:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant about the infobox. Don't even get me started on the retirement. It caused $1.5 billion in Louisiana alone, and combined with the Mid-Atlantic, it caused around $3 billion in 1985 dollars, $5+ billion today. I'm just wonderng should we mention the deaths and damage caused by the renmant in the infobox. Hurricanehink 03:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Seems like a similar situation to Hurricane Stan. Jdorje 03:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Juan and Stan were worlds apart. To not acknowledge all those deaths in Central America to Stan is ludicrous, and TPC knows it. It's not like there was a circulation in the Gulf of Mexico before Stan arrived...the rainfall/deaths were directly attributable to Stan's circulation...no different than Mitch (1998) or Fifi (1974). Juan and an additional occluded cyclone led to the damage in the Mid-Atlantic, which is shown in the Daily Weather Map Series. I corrected it in the storm's summary, and added some rainfall information and a graphic. thegreatdr 20:45, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, except this is said and done with. Maybe we could have that information in paranthesis? Also, is this article any better, or is it still a start article? Hurricanehink 04:03, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I changed it to B. Make sure you include metric units. Jdorje 04:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Appalachian Mountains

According to the USGS figures are different for the flood. Maybe that section can be approved using this source. --Matthiasb (talk) 04:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: 12george1 (talk · contribs) 21:35, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello User:Hurricanehink! Secret decided to delete this page so that way I could review Juan instead. Anyway, here is some issues I have with this article. I am going out for dinner tonight, so I will finish later. --12george1 (talk) 21:35, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

• " that looped twice near the Louisiana coast, causing torrential flooding for several days." - I know there can be torrential rainfall, but can there be torrential flooding?

• Sure! But I'll change it. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

• "The energy from Juan helped spawn an occluded low in the Tennessee Valley, which produced " - Wikilink Tennessee Valley

• Sure! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

• I know there is an article for the 1985 Election day floods, but could you add more information to the Inland and Mid-Atlantic section? Judging by the current size of the section, it doesn't look like the flood was very severe, other than the damage and death toll.

• Well, Juan didn't cause that flooding. It just preceded it, like Hurricane Connie before Hurricane Diane. So I don't want to include too much info, as the focus of Juan should be more on the gulf coast. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

• Alright then. I am going to let you keep the Inland and Mid-Atlantic section as it is.--12george1 (talk) 03:01, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

• "On October 29, Louisiana Governor Edwin Edwards requested that the state's congressional delegation ask President Ronald Reagan for a disaster declaration." - I noticed toward the end that you wikilinked Ronald Reagan. So I think maybe you should wikilink Edwin Edwards, too. Wouldn't you like others to know about what an interesting person Edwards is? :P

• I linked him in preps, should I link him again? ;) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

• Never mind. I wasn't paying attention. Just scratch that.--12george1 (talk) 02:59, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

More

• "Juan moved erratically at first, eventually tracking more steadily to the north-northeast on October 27.[2]" - Maybe you should add a "but" in there, so that there is more of a contrast between Juan's initial erratic movement and then steady path.

• It was never that steady though, given its later looping near Louisiana. It just became less erratic. I think the usage of "more steadily" confirms the steadier path. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

• "On October 31, the storm moved across the Mississippi Delta near Burrwood and accelerated to the northeast,[4][3] influenced by an approaching upper-level trough." - Since this is a new paragraph, you should mention what state Burrwood is in.

• Agreed. Originally it wasn't the start of a paragraph, so I changed it. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

• "just west of Pensacola, Florida with winds of 65 km/h (100 km/h) late on October 31." - Hmm, that's an interesting conversion :P

• Uhh, you see, it was before mph was... err, yea, I'll just change it instead of coming up with a snappy response :P ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

• "ceased tracking the circulation at 1800 UTC that day" - Wikilink to atmospheric circulation

• Why? The article doesn't seem that relevant, since it's mostly talking about large-scale circulations like the polar vortex. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

• Any preparations for Mississippi?

• It was never really much of a threat, given it's tucked in the corner. I didn't find any in my research, other than it being affected by the gale warnings. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

• "it dropped over 10 in (250 mm) across much of the southern portion of the state." - 10 inches of what? Sulfuric acid? :P

• Gumbo, actually. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

• Ok, that's it for now. I will be happy to pass this article when these issues are fixed.--12george1 (talk) 02:59, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

• Yay! Better? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

• Nice job Hurricanehink. I am now going to pass this article. Regards, --12george1 (talk) 21:39, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

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