Talk:House of Auersperg

Latest comment: 12 years ago by 92.225.111.237 in topic Multiple issues

Lots of rubbish

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  • Misleading title of the article: Auersperg was never a principality, but the name of a family;
  • neither was Auersperg ever a “County” nor a “State of Holy Roman Empire”
  • Auersperg” was the name of a castle in Carniola, from which the family, which originally came from Carinthia, took their name when acquiring the castle in the 13th cent. It is not known whether they were relations, or heirs of, or just sucessors in name to the original owners “Ursperch” (“ur” = auer = aurochs).
  • Members of the family later owned bits and pieces of land all over the Reich some of which already had, or were later provided, with noble status (e.g. Duchy of Münsterberg & Frankenstein in Silesia, Duchy of Gottschee in Carniola, the Nassaberg allodium in Bohemia, etc., etc.; the owners of the Domaine of Tengen in Wurttemberg, for instance, rose to barons, then, having acquired Nellenburg, became counts, sold Tengen-Nellenburg to the Habsburgs, who in the 17th cent., together with the title of Count of Tengen, pledged it to the Auerspergs, and in 1654 the 70 km²-territory was raised to the status of a “princified county”, in German (just like the Tyrol) a “gefürstete Grafschaft”, and the new owner, Count Weikard von Auersperg, became a "Prince").
  • Auersperg was partitioned ... between itself, Auersperg-Schönfeldscher and Auersperg-Zweig“: complete nonsense!
" -scher“ in "Schönfeldscher“ just means „ –ish“ (= of!) In German grammar an adjective before a masculine noun - "der Zweig" - has the ending -er if there is no article)!
Johann Adam of Auersperg, who although a just second son, was himself made a Prince by Emperor Francis Stephan, married a Katharina von Schönfeld, and when she died in 1754, he inherited the Schönfeld (or Schönfeld'sche) property, which, lacking a son himself, he passed on first to his nephew Karl, who also died without heir, and then to another nephew, Vinzenz (d. 1812), whom he had adopted, and after Vinzenz’s early death in Feb. 1812 to Vinzenz’s posthumous son, Vinzenz Karl Joseph (* 17 July 1812). This male line, which may be called "Auersperg-Schönfeld" and was not actually started as a side line on secundogeniture, because its founder, John Adam Auersperg, was created "Prince" in his own right, became extinct in 1942.
  • "The Auersperg-Zweig:"..: "Princes of Auersperg-Zweig": German “Zweig“ just means "branch“ and is NO NAME!
European Heraldry has the same nonsense:
“Princes of Auersperg-Schonfeldscher 1795-1938
Princes of Auersperg-Zweig 1795-1869 ”
  • "All three territories..." nonsense!
  • Categories: Former principalities | Former countries in Europe | States of the Holy Roman Empire | States and territories established in 1550 | = wrong!

This article certainly deserves a different rating than "Stub-Class" on the "quality scale"!--Marschner (talk) 10:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)(UTC)Reply

Multiple issues

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  1. House of Auersperg, Barons, Counts, Princes, Dukes of Münsterberg etc.
  2. Imperial County of Tengen, held by the aforementioned

92.225.111.237 (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2012 (UTC)Reply