Talk:Give Us a Wink

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Give Us an Exclamation mark!

→ Discussion moved from Talk:Sweet (band)#Give Us an Exclamation mark! to here where it logically belongs. – IbLeo (talk) 11:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

The album title Give Us A Wink! should always include an apostrophe to reflect the original title on the album artwork. The omission of the ! is an error made by Captiol on their CD re-issue, although the original US album and the latest BMG CD edition include the !This is verifiable by vieiwing the original album cover art.202.56.179.17 (talk) 06:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I own a copy of the original vinyl album and I now understand your point. It does indeed show an exclamation mark ('!') at the end of "Give Us a Wink!". However, I am not convinced that this is sufficient to establish this as the album title here on Wikipedia. As you have certainly noticed on the link you quote (or here), the title is also written on the back cover without the '!'. Same thing on the sticker center label on the vinyl disc itself, and on the Allmusic article or any other source that I know about. Please also read WP:ALBUMCAPS and you will see that the Wikipedia standard is to write the 'a' in lowercase. I am willing to discuss the issue further in this space and establish a consensus, but until then I will revert your edit as you have broken the wikilink to the album article as well as violated the WP:CS standard. If we can reach consensus on the "!" I will be happy to help moving the album article to preserve the integrity. Cheers – IbLeo (talk) 18:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your understanding my perspective at least- I have the original UK shop promo poster in my study and passionately believe the album cover art from their country of origin should be influential enough but shall not die in ditch about the issue! The capitalisation of 'a' reflects the album cover but hey if it's a wiki rule then who can get around that argument. Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.56.179.17 (talk) 12:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

My pleasure. I have posted a request for comment here. Hopefully other contributors will express their opinion. – IbLeo (talk) 13:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Awaiting 3rd opinion, I have replaced the image of the faulty CD cover with the original LP cover featuring the "!". – IbLeo (talk) 21:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Good man! Love your work202.56.179.17 (talk) 10:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :-). Regarding other opinions, it seems like we are a bit on our own with this. I haven't made my mind up yet; I am still reluctant by the fact that the spelling is inconsistent between the record cover on one hand and back cover record sticker on the other. I think we need to find a reliable source; in our case I guess it could be a well-reputed rock music dictionary (preferably British), or something in that direction. Any ideas? – IbLeo (talk) 11:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I think Derek's UK chart book may be a useful reference point. Let's see what it saysHongkongmick (talk) 13:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Nothing, I'm afraid. Give Us a Wink! (exclamation mark, or otherwise) did not chart in the UK Albums Chart, and consequentially does not appear in the Guinness Book of British Hit Singles & Albums. Sorry (exclamation mark, or otherwise).

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

That's a shame, as it doesn't bring us forward on this issue. Thanks anyway for looking it up, Derek. In the absence of any source whatsoever (online or not) to support this proposal, and especially due to the omission on the original LP's center label, I am still not favorable toward the "!". – IbLeo (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Invalid length of Cockroach

Could someone verify that the song Cockroach is 3:47 in length? I've got a digital version of it and it's longer, 04:52. The song ends with a guitar solo which lasts for about a minute. I guess either CD or vinyl lacked that part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.226.179.36 (talk) 12:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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Article requirements': Y Start: reasonably complete infobox; lead section with overview of album; track listing; reference to at least primary personnel by name; Categorization by at least artist and year. C: all of start and (1) cover art in infobox; (2) at least one additional section of prose; (3) track lengths & song authors in tracklist; (4) a personnel section including all musicians. B: all of C and (1) most technical details in infobox; (2) technical personnel in personnel section; (3) no obvious issues with sourcing; (4) no obvious issues with readability, though it may not conform completely to style guidelines; (5) no glaring omissions of information (see some suggestions at WP:ALBUM) or extraneous information, like trivia. Higher Classes are not assigned by WikiProject Album. Please review "the perfect article" and, if already B class, consider seeking additional feedback from Wikipedia:Good articles or Wikipedia:Featured articles. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Assessment for additional information on article class. To request a reassessment from the Album project, when concerns are addressed, please see "requesting an assessment". --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:29, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

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