Talk:Geoffrey Talbot (died 1129)

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A fact from Geoffrey Talbot (died 1129) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 March 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Geoffrey Talbot held lands around Swanscombe assessed as owing 20 knight's fees, as recorded in the Cartae Baronum?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2015/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Geoffrey Talbot (died 1129).

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Template:Did you know nominations/Geoffrey Talbot (died 1129) Ealdgyth - Talk 13:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Geoffrey Talbot (died 1129)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tim riley (talk · contribs) 21:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Comments

This is plainly a comprehensive and authoritative piece. Before promoting it to GA I make a few minor suggestions about the prose:

"Holding lands around Swanscombe in Kent, his tenure of these lands means" … seems to me a bit of a dangling participle: "holding lands, he…" would be fine, but I'm not sure about "holding lands, his tenure". I do not press the point.
- "Holding lands around Swanscombe in Kent, he is often considered to have been the feudal baron of Swanscombe." work better for you?
"Sometime after 1086" – I'd make "some time" two words, and a swift skim through the OED entry encourages me in that view, but again I do not press the point
- Fixed. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
"was given control of Rochester Castle by Gundulf of Rochester, then the bishop" – there is nothing whatever wrong with the syntax, but to make sure nobody mistakes your meaning I'd say "Gundulf of Rochester, who was then the bishop" to make it absolutely plain that the control was not given by (i) Gundulf and then (ii) the bishop.
- Fixed. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
"owed 2 marks" – a figure rather than "two"?
- Fixed. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
"Agnes' family" – in BrE this really ought to be "Agnes's".
- I went with "The family of Agnes because "Agnes's" grates like sandpaper on my soul. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

That's my lot. Over to you and then we can wrap this up. Tim riley talk 21:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

I think I got them all? Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

All fine. I laughed aloud at the horrifying effect of "Agnes's" on you.

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A. References to sources:
Well referenced.

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
Well referenced.

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Well illustrated.

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Well illustrated.
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A pleasure to read and to review. Tim riley talk 14:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

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