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Consensus needed - should Genshin be described as a JRPG in the lede, or simply as an RPG?edit
Latest comment: 4 days ago12 comments5 people in discussion
I am opening this discussion before an edit war breaks out.
I do not think it needs to be described as a JRPG. Simply describing it as an RPG is more appropriate according to MOS:JARGON, and other well-known JRPG series like Hyperdimension Neptunia, Fire Emblem and even Pokémon are not directly classified as such in their respective articles; the first and the third are described as RPGs, while the second is described as a tactical RPG. KingErikII(Talk page) 00:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Zero prose and sourcing right now that seem to call Genshin Impact a "JRPG". More importantly, kinda central to the definition... It's not a Japanese game. -- ferret (talk) 01:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Indeed, which is another reason why I find it unnecessary and inappropriate to label Genshin a JRPG in the lede. --KingErikII(Talk page) 01:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
The defiunition on Wikitionary is "Initialism of Japanese role-playing game, a traditional genre of role-playing video game generally understood as involving a pre-determined story and player characters, a party of multiple controllable characters, and an emphasis on narrative and storytelling."
I believe that Genshin fits the definition. GENeration.XVII (talk) 01:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Going by that definition, this can also be applied to GTA 5. Is GTA 5 a JRPG? Clearly that entry in Wikitionary was trying to say it's for *Japanese* games with the above mentioned characteristics. Though, it should be edited to make the wording more clear. Obviously neither GTA 5 nor Genshin Impact are JRPGs. MuggyForecast (talk) 11:12, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Genshin Impact's distinct blend of visual style, thematic elements, and gameplay mechanics warrants its classification as a JRPG (Japanese Role-Playing Game). The game draws significant inspiration from Japanese anime and manga, both aesthetically and thematically, and features gameplay mechanics commonly associated with JRPGs, such as party-based combat and character progression. Despite being developed by a Chinese studio, miHoYo, Genshin Impact's design principles and narrative influences align closely with traditional JRPGs. I believe there is no harm in classifying Genshin Impact in that manner. GENeration.XVII (talk) 01:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Feel free to provide some reliable secondary sourcing that backs your claim. -- ferret (talk) 01:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Though, describing Houkai Star Rail as a JRPG might be more accurate than Genshin. GENeration.XVII (talk) 01:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
It doesn't matter; you need to provide reliable sources that back up your claim. Otherwise, "JRPG" just violates WP:JARGON, even if technically correct. --KingErikII(Talk page) 02:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Addendum: On Wikipedia, games are described based on what reliable, secondary sources say about them; the "JRPG" label is simply too niche compared to the more commonly-understood "RPG". Furthermore, when writing articles on Wikipedia, it's a good idea to stick with layman's terms to increase readability. "JRPG" is too technical, and a reader may wonder why a Chinese creation is described as a "Japanese Role-Playing Game". KingErikII(Talk page) 02:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply