Talk:Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe
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editWhats a good way to fix the tone? anyone have suggestions? What else should be done to improve this page? Abster397 (talk) 18:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Title of the movie
editIs the movie really called simply Fried Green Tomatoes? I just watched it, and the title screen included at the Whistle Stop Cafe. IMDb lists it with the short title, with the long one as an AKA.
- I've only ever heard it referenced by it's short title (in the US). Also the DVD and VHS covers only have the short title. It was released in the UK known by the full name.Wynler 19:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Article should be moved
editThis article should be moved to simply "Fried Green Tomatoes". This article is mostly about the movie. It is an american movie made in America and where it is exclusively known as "Fried Green Tomatoes". the full title referring to the movie seems to only be used in the UK Caesarscott 18:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think we should leave it here, because the article is also about the book(first) whose title was the long version. If someone ever spends the time to clean up and expand the article to the point where there could be an article for both the movie and the book. Then we could move the movie section to Fried Green Tomatoes (instead of the current redirect). --Wynler | Talk 01:45, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
The movie is in fact simply "Fried Green Tomatoes". Many articles reviewing the movie (see reference 10 for one) only refer to it as such. Abster397 (talk) 01:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
But This article I not talking just about the movie!!! It's also mostly talking about the book, called "Fried Green Tomatoes At The Whistle Stop Cafe"!!!! Amy Garden (talk) 21:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
MSM on The Dennis Miller Show - early '90s - re FGT
editI distinctly remember watching an interview with Mary Stuart Masterson during the publicity buildup for the movie, in which she talked to some degree about playing her character with at least a gay subtext. It was something to the effect that the director was toning down that aspect of the character (which is acknowledged here in the article), and she wanted to keep it evident in her portrayal. I can't find anything about this online, and the IMDb listing for the DM show only lists the cast for two episodes (+ a mistaken list for 2004, which would have been his later cable show). If someone can find backup for this interview and post from it to the article, that'd be terrific. Lawikitejana 09:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Book and film split
editI propose that the book and film be separated into individual articles. Portions of the current article are only applicable to one or the other. There are also differences between the two, particularly Idgie and Ruth's relationship. Thoughts? - Propound 02:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes!Hemhem20X6 07:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Possible differences between novel and film
editI believe in the US release of the Fried Green Tomatoes film, Ninny was 83, of course perhaps a simple mistake was made in this article.
- Ninny makes a little bit of a deal that she's surprised by the description on her hospital wristband that says, "86-year-old woman" in the book. If she's 83 in the movie, I don't remember too well. There should be a section in the film version that includes the differences between the book and the movie. The reduction of the lesbian theme will be a significant part of that.Moni3 15:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)Moni3
I Don't Understand This Popular America Theme
editWould the contributor mind explaining it? Moni3 02:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)Moni3
Themes: race and acceptance of the relationship
editThe list of themes should include race. Though the book is written from a white perspectice, that theme is important throughout the book.
The sentence on how the people in the town accepted Ruth and Idgie "for who they were" can be questioned. We don't know how much the townspeople knew about their relationship. If the general idea was the two women were best friends - several lesbian couples have lived together under such a "cover" - did they actually accept Ruth and Idgie for who they were? In one sense, yes. In another no.
IMHO there are two ways of reading the novel. One possibility the two lesbians "get away with it" because of the Threadgoode family being very tolerant, Idgie being a well respected person in town and people not really understanding the nature of their relationship - probably because "lesbianism" was an unheard of word, and two women having sex together was far far away from people's minds. Another version is, the story does not try to accurately portrait the time and place in which it is set - not in this very respect. Idgie Threadgood can be seen as a Pippi Longstocking-like figure, for whom nothing is impossible - almost more of a myth than a real person.
I don't think the article should be based on the wikipedians' interpretations of the book, though. We should get some sources, and where we don't have such keep interpretations to a minimum. // Saihoji (talk) 18:28, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- The themes used to include race. It was removed. I have sadly neglected this article, and I heartily agree that sources should interpret the information within. --Moni3 (talk) 18:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Cafe
editI don't how to add a link, but this is the cafe that was created after the movie was filmed, in the actual movie set in Juliette, Georgia. It's notable not only for fried green tomatoes, but also the "Bennett's Barbeque" sandwich! http://www.thewhistlestopcafe.com/about-the-whistle-stop-cafe.php 24.128.188.152 (talk) 00:32, 28 April 2010 (UTC) Is there any other evidence of the cafe being created after the movie was filmed, other than the cafe's website claim? I can add this in the article for you, but only if there is any other valid evidence that this is true. Abster397 (talk) 14:14, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
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