Talk:Eurostar International Limited

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EIL article naming

The page was renamed from Eurostar International Limited to Eurostar International in Special:Diff/917267430+Special:Diff/917267437 with the edit summary "… drop legal status per WP:NCCORP". However, WP:NCCORP states "Legal status may be included, even when disambiguation is not needed, for companies that are commonly known by acronyms". Eurostar International Limited (EIL) would appear to fall into that category with EIL being the common usage when referring to the company (EIL), vs. the primary service (Eurostar). —Sladen (talk) 07:58, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done. Hopefully everything back to previous status quo; + a couple of odd fixes on the way. —Sladen (talk) 08:14, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

The key phrase of the policy is "for companies that are commonly known by acronyms". This applies to organisations like British Rail Engineering Limited where "Limited" is a component of the BREL acronym under which it traded for and stamped its builders'plates with. But in this case there is no evidence that the subject of this article is commonly known by its acronym, it only appears in articles and cites for the sake of brevity, much like National Express East Coast is often referred to as NXEC, yet never traded under the acronym. Amo063 (talk) 05:24, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Amo063, EIL is used near-universally; from the top-left of Eurostar tickets ("CIV EIL"); to the bottom-right of rolling stock numbers ("93 70 3740 011–9 GB-EIL"). —Sladen (talk) 12:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I propose merging Eurostar International Limited into Eurostar. I think the content on the Eurostar International Limited page can easily be explained on the Eurostar page. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 00:52, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

"Eurostar" is probably where readers expect to find current information about the train service. The technicalities of ownership and operations are probably more useful to leave on their own articles: in the same way that TransManche Link, Channel Tunnel, LeShuttle, Eurotunnel, ElecLink, Eurotunnel Class 9, and Getlink are separate. (What about instead moving move text in the opposite directions …to try and reduce the size of the Eurostar article itself?) —Sladen (talk) 17:54, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

@Sladen Thoughts on merging Eurostar International Limited with Eurostar Group then? I think you have good reasoning not to merge with the train service, but there doesn't appear to be enough distinction for the ownership articles to need separate pages; even if different entities, WP:NOPAGE applies that those are better presented together. Reywas92^Talk 20:41, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I like the idea of merging Eurostar International Limited with Eurostar Group. Kyteto (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)