Talk:Ermengarde-Gerberga of Anjou

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Angevin daughter edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Is it true that "Angevins were known to give daughters two names" or are you just connecting two coincidences/historical misrepresentation and calling it fact? Does a book actually attest to this assumption that giving two names was a family practice? --The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 06:06, 21 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

This is a paraphrasing of what a leading authority on the early Angevins wrote. The reason we're required to provide source citations is so anyone can verify this for themselves. The sentence in this note and the one following state: "The Angevins frequently gave their daughters two names. Fulk's aunt Adelaide was called Blanche (Lot, Derniers carolingiens, pp. 366-369), and fulk's daughter Hermengarde was also called Blanche (Halphen, Le comte, p. 12, n.)" Again, the source is: Bernard S. Bachrach, 'Henry II and the Angevin Tradition of Family Hostility', Albion, Vol. 16, No. 2, (1984), p. 117 n. 35. The article can be found on JSTOR or you may be able to order a reprint through a local library. Bearpatch (talk) 15:23, 21 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

There is a difference between having two names and having a double-name (hyphenated in modern English). These people are only referred to this way by historians in academic works (for convenience) and that needs to be clear. I'm not sure what the best titles are. Srnec (talk) 19:31, 21 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Is the genealogy correct? edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

According to some genealogy sources, Duke Conan of Brittany and William II of Angoulême did not have the same wife. Duke Conan's wife was Ermengarde, daughter of Fulk II of Anjou, while William II's wife was Gerberge, daughter of Geoffrey I of Anjou. This would make Ermengarde the sister of Geoffrey and therefore the aunt of Gerberge. Pacingpal (talk) 17:45, 12 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Yes, and no. They were two different women, but they were both daughters of Geoffrey. This is attested by an 11th century genealogy of the Counts of Anjou (close enough to the time that the family can be trusted to have known) shows Gerberge and Ermengarde to be two different daughters of Geoffrey. Agricolae (talk) 18:16, 26 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Pipera (talk) They were two different women. Yes your sources are right.

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