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A fact from Economy of Sarawak appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 November 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the economy of Sarawak is strongly dependent on natural resource exports such as timber, oil, and gas?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Economy of Sarawak.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 06:57, 24 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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... that the economy of Sarawak is strongly dependent on natural resource exports such as timber, oil, and gas? ^[1]
- ALT1:... that Sarawak has the third-largest economy in Malaysia? ^[2]
- ALT2:... that the economy of Sarawak was stagnant during the rule of the first White Rajah? ^[3]
- ALT3:... that Sarawak was the world's largest exporter of tropical timber in the 1980s, contributed to the the state's economy at the time?^[4]

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lukman Hakim

Created/expanded by Cerevisae (talk). Self-nominated at 08:59, 29 September 2021 (UTC).Reply

The article needs copyediting first. In addition, the table in the article is mostly empty. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:42, 12 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your suggestion. Table moved to sandbox for further expansion. Cerevisae (talk) 13:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Narutolovehinata5: I have carried out some copyedits, let me know if there are areas that need another run-through. CMD (talk) 07:59, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Apologies for the late reply! Anyway, ALT0 is probably the best hook among the three proposed (ALT1 seems unimpressive to me while ALT2 may need additional context). However, the sentence verifying ALT0 doesn't have a footnote; instead, the references for it are spread across other nearby sentences instead, duplication is needed here for DYK purposes. In addition, it may be a good idea to propose an additional hook about Sarawak being the biggest timber exporter in the 1980s since that fact seems more interesting than the others discussed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:53, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

added ALT 3. Cerevisae (talk) 04:30, 5 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the proposal; however, I feel that it may not meet WP:EGG. Would it be possible to rewrite ALT3 to make the link to "Economy of Sarawak" clearer? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:52, 5 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

talk, ALT 3 changed. Cerevisae (talk) 14:23, 8 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

ALT3 reads better, but it may still need to be copyedited for grammar. In addition it lacks a bold link to the DYK article subject. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:29, 13 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hook copyedited. CMD (talk) 07:03, 13 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the edits. Now the article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination and no close paraphrasing was found. However, there are still a number of outstanding issues. Firstly, the sentence that mentions the main hook fact is lacking a footnote, with the relevant reference instead coming at the end of the paragraph where the fact is located at; duplication is necessary here per DYK rules. Secondly, the article doesn't say that the timber industry contributed "greatly" to Sarawak's economy: I would suggest deleting the word "greatly" from the hook, with the rest of that part being accepted as it's implied by the rest of the article. Thirdly, a QPQ has yet to be provided; this was the nominator's sixth nomination, so a QPQ should have been provided at the time of the nomination or within a week of then. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:49, 15 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Ok, User:Narutolovehinata5, QPQ done. Cerevisae (talk) 08:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. No more outstanding issues so this is now GTG. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:23, 23 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Narutolovehinata5 and Chipmunkdavis: I'm not quite sure what "copyediting" means in this context, but I can't understand ALT3. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:44, 24 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

(edit conflict) Taking a quick look of the article. it reads fine and has enough sources for DYK. And the reviewer prefers the main hook, so: – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 06:56, 24 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

(edit conflict) Promoting the main hook to Prep 7 – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 06:48, 24 November 2021 (UTC) Reply

References

^ Chiou Sia, Tan (2015). Forecasting the gross domestic product (GDP) of Sarawak (PDF). Sarawak: Faculty of Economics and Business University Malaysia Sarawak. pp. 6–7. Archived from the original (PDF) on 29 September 2021. Retrieved 29 September 2021.
^ "Gross Domestic Product (GDP) By State 2020". Department of Statistics Malaysia. Archived from the original on 23 September 2021. Retrieved 22 September 2021.
^ Fumitaka, Furuoka (2014). "Economic Development in Sarawak, Malaysia: An overview" (PDF). Munich Personal RePEc Archive. University of Malaya: 2–3. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2021-06-02. Retrieved 22 September 2021.
^ Tachibana, Satoshi. "FOREST-RELATED INDUSTRIES AND TIMBER EXPORTS OF MALAYSIA: POLICY AND STRUCTURE" (PDF). Institute for Global Environmental Stragies conference paper. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2021-10-12. Retrieved 12 October 2021.

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[1] Chiou Sia, Tan (2015). Forecasting the gross domestic product (GDP) of Sarawak (PDF). Sarawak: Faculty of Economics and Business University Malaysia Sarawak. pp. 6–7. Archived from the original (PDF) on 29 September 2021. Retrieved 29 September 2021.

[Sarawak_2020-2] "Gross Domestic Product (GDP) By State 2020". Department of Statistics Malaysia. Archived from the original on 23 September 2021. Retrieved 22 September 2021.

[Fumitaka_2014-3] Fumitaka, Furuoka (2014). "Economic Development in Sarawak, Malaysia: An overview" (PDF). Munich Personal RePEc Archive. University of Malaya: 2–3. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2021-06-02. Retrieved 22 September 2021.

[Tachibana-4] Tachibana, Satoshi. "FOREST-RELATED INDUSTRIES AND TIMBER EXPORTS OF MALAYSIA: POLICY AND STRUCTURE" (PDF). Institute for Global Environmental Stragies conference paper. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2021-10-12. Retrieved 12 October 2021.

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