Talk:Dutch Ceylon

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This page is pretty seriously biassed...

Very much so- Could we have a source for the apparent millions who were killed for their protestantism according to the introduction?

...the broken engrish is sort of amusing though...

A lot of this is nonsense, needs to be fixed. Eregli bob (talk) 02:22, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, come on ...

"The Dutch were not aggressors but they were very cunning. It was they who initiated separatism in Sri Lanka (under the divide and rule theory), which has burdened and destroyed the lives of thousands and continues till this very day."

Ah, so it's really the Dutch who are behind the never ending bloodshed in Sri Lanka ... Oh, come on now ... Pleeeez ... GdB (talk) 02:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

The legacy section must be re-written. It should read as if written by an adult who speaks English. At present it does not so read.125.237.109.203 (talk) 04:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Controversial?

"Dutch priest Rev Philippus Baldeus has written a great historical record similar to Mahavamsa on the Jaffna people and their culture and it was immediately published in Dutch and German with several beautiful pictures."

Very controversial indeed! Could the person who wrote this page please finish high school before re-writing it completely? User:mspape (talk) 22:29, 17 June 2009 (GMT)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 16:54, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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Dutch period in Ceylon → Dutch Ceylon – Seems more common, per WP:COMMON, and in line with other articles on colonial-era administrations in Sri Lanka, such as Portuguese Ceylon and British Ceylon. Timbouctou (talk) 13:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

• Suggestion Support

@Timbouctou: Dear friend, I suggest Dutch Governorate of Ceylon (as in Governorate of Ambon, Governorate of the Banda Islands) which I believe as more accurate, due to several reasons.

1. It was not a new colony founded by the Dutch explorers.
2. Dutch territory was consisted of three commanderies; Colombo, Jaffna and Galle. They failed bring whole island under their control.
3. Kandyan king was the de jure ruler of the island. Dutch held Colombo and Galle in payment of debt, Jaffna under the right of conquest and eastern forts ″to protect the Kandyan king″.
4. Dutch judicial powers were not enacted by a legislative authority, neither from the dutch mainland nor Batavia.

I know it seems just a minor change to an outsider but I'm trying to look at it from a point of view of a Sri Lankan history student who might see a huge difference.

I would like to know your thoughts.

Thanks. Nishadhi (talk) 18:02, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

My reasoning for the move is motivated purely by practicality. The term "Dutch Ceylon" is commonly used in sources to refer to the territory and period governed by entities (governorates) subordinated to the Dutch East India Company during their existence (from the 17th up to the late 18th century). It does not imply anything more than that. Timbouctou (talk) 18:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

@Timbouctou: I see your point, and I agree with you. I changed my mind. We can elaborate the limitations in the lead or in a relevant section to prevent misunderstandings. Thanks for your input. Nishadhi (talk) 11:36, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes of course, everything you mentioned above can be further elaborated in article body. This is just about choosing the most convenient title for the topic. Timbouctou (talk) 02:45, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

• Support per nom. By the way, why is there more at this article about the Portuguese than at Portuguese Ceylon? —  AjaxSmack  02:27, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

@AjaxSmack: I'm currently researching on the topic. Hopefully by June I would be able to expand Portuguese Ceylon. Thanks. Nishadhi (talk) 17:57, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

This article needs a major clean up and addition of sources.--Blackknight12 (talk) 03:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

• Observation Just an observation Dutch Governorate of Ceylon does seem to be more common than Dutch Ceylon.--Blackknight12 (talk) 03:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

A Google Books search of the phrase "Dutch Governorate of Ceylon" yields 0 results, "Governorate of Ceylon" also gets 0 results and "Ceylon Governorate" as well. On the other hand, "Dutch Ceylon" gets 2,870 hits. Timbouctou (talk) 03:48, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

• Support - as per nom plus it would be consistent with similar articles (Portuguese Ceylon, British Ceylon, Dutch East Indies, Dutch Cape Colony).--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 13:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

• Support per nom. "period in" conveys no useful information. Dutch Ceylon seems fine. Dutch Ceylon (1640 - 1796) would be preferable to the current. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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