Talk:Corey Baker (choreographer)

Edit warring

@Gleeanon409 and Rosebutterfly: Use the talk page here if you have any more disagreements, instead of edit warring. Any more edit warring could lead to blocks. Discuss here instead. — MarkH21 (talk) 10:03, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Gleeanon409. I would like to start fresh lets turn this around and hopefully we can work together on this draft making it suitable for mainspace. As you have mentioned to me building quality articles takes time and research. Lets use this opportunity to contribute constructively and make this article neutral, non-combative, interesting and informative. I am happy to leave the writing up to you and I can help with finding varied and up to date sources of information.

PERSONAL LIFE: Earlier Life Career 2012 to present:

I have done some research and found a varied of up to date references which I hope will be useful for you. As you can see I have added a note under each link making it easier for you to consider the material.

( 1 ) The world's first ballet in Antarctica has a message for our time

https://www.noted.co.nz/culture/culture-theatre/corey-baker-ballet-in-antarctica-has-a-message-for-our-time

(May 22, 2018: Included in this article it states Corey`s birthday details and using the date this article was written you are able to work out his age and year he was born.)

( 2 ) Antarctica The first dance Choreographer and director on how he Shot a dance at -16 degrees.

https://www.mandy.com/news/antartica-the-first-dance-corey-baker-choreography-interview-dancing-dancer

(info on leaving school and on being a Choreographer)

( 3 ) Dancing one thin ice.

https://www.sarahcatherall.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Corey-Baker-NZ-Ballet.pdf

(Leaving school and being a Choreographer)

( 4 ) Corey Baker Choreographer.

https://en.everybodywiki.com/Corey_Baker

(Full date of birth and Career information)

( 5 ) International Dance Festival 2016.

http://www.birminghamcathedral.com/events/view/383/international-dance-festival-birmingham-2016/

( 6 ) Dancer Dose: Corey Baker Antarctica: The first Dance filmmaker Choreographer and dancer.

https://www.starquestdance.com/corey-baker-dancer/

(Baker would later drop out of school at age 15. In order to dedicate himself fully to the study of ballet.)

( 7 ) Corey Baker - One Dance UK

https://www.onedanceuk.org/choreographer-archive/corey-baker/

(Career 2012 – present)

( 8 ) Corey Baker - Movement Agency

https://www.movement-agency.com/sites/default/files/talent/resume/Corey%20Baker%20MTA%20Resume%206.2019%20%282%29.pdf

(Resume of all his work and dates)

( 9 ) Royal New Zealand Ballet

https://rnzb.org.nz/backstage/leaders/corey-baker/

( 10 ) Dancing on Icebergs to highlight climate change.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/tv-guide/116257904/dancing-on-icebergs-to-highlight-climate-change

(Information on his latest project in Hong Kong.)

( 11 ) First Antarctica dance sets four world records.

https://www.dancewriter.com.au/qa/chilling-first-dance-film-in-antarctica-smashes-four-world-records/

( First dance film in Antarctica sets four world records. First dancer, first choreographer, first dance performance and first dance creation on Antarctica.)

( 12 ) Corey being interviews on BBC.

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialCoreyBakerDance/videos/corey-bbc-interview-for-antarcticadance/2076309775992178/

(Corey on the BBC describing the experience of creating AntarcticaDance BBC interview with choreographer Corey Baker)

( 13 ) DANZ Magazine.

https://danz.org.nz/in%20conversation%20corey%20baker

(Left school at 15 and being a Choreographer)

( 14 ) Antarctica Community Engagement Programme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica_New_Zealand_Community_Engagement_Programme

( This is for applicants with a genuine interest in Antarctica and the environment, who can express and communicate this in new and different ways, to reach a wide audience of New Zealanders.)

I would like to add that regarding Corey`s personal life in the article, I really don`t think it is relevant that this info, `Corey was married to a half Irish and half Yorkshire man’ needs to be included. There is zero reason to include this information. If you thinks its necessary then publish that he was married to an UK dancer but is now divorced. It has nothing to do with Corey being a Choreographer and your opening sentence neutrally says Corey is an award winning Choreographer so lets continue to keep away from anything that is unrelated to him being a Choreographer. Thanks. --Rosebutterfly (talk) 08:02, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

if you read some of the more developed articles you’ll see they include loads of somewhat less important information that does give a more complete picture of the subject. Elton John, for instance, is much more than just a singer.

EverybodyWiki, is unlikely considered reliable, it’s not a big deal if his exact birthday isn’t publicly known yet in reliable sources.

MarkH21 has made this article such an unpleasant process that I am backing off and will let them take care of it from here. Good luck to you both.

Gleeanon409 (talk) 02:54, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Date of birth. Still using the one primary source which is years old when other newer updated sources are available.

You will find Corey’s correct date of birth in three seperate articles I sent you. On the contrary having the correct date is important. What has being brought up Pakeha to do with being a Choreographer? You mentioned you have a lot of sources to go through including mine. Why is it then you are still using the one primary source which is years old. You are very focused on his early and personal life and still being selected in what you are adding. Rosebutterfly (talk) 06:14, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

I agree that the main issue with the current draft is the lack of WP:PROPORTION, where all of the content is from a single primary source on the subject's early & personal life as I mentioned earlier. — MarkH21 (talk) 06:17, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

MarkH21 has made this article such an unpleasant process that I am backing off and will let them take care of it from here. Good luck to you both. Gleeanon409 (talk) 17:38, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Content forking and attribution per copyright policy

@Gleeanon409: Since you've forked the content from here to User:Gleeanon409/sandbox/CoreyBaker, be aware that attribution needs to be preserved per copyright policy (specifically attribution for copying text within WP). Whether this is done when you merge the content from your sandbox here, or if you try to move your sandbox article to mainspace, this needs to be done eventually (really, it is supposed to be done immediately). — MarkH21 (talk) 06:31, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

I was working on a draft to be brought back here in time but since you’ve made this article such an unpleasant process I am backing off and will you take care of it from here. Good luck to you both. Gleeanon409 (talk) 17:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@Gleeanon409: Sorry you feel that way. I’m just informing you of the copyright requirements as legally required for forking, and you can work on the draft here just as easily. — MarkH21 (talk) 18:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Constantly being selective of particular information about Corey’s personal and early life from one primary source can make it appear that they are more controversial than they are, especially as you have repeatedly decided not to utilise other variations of sources which are available to you. As a Choreographer Corey has many accomplishments, there is potential for an article about this to be interesting. Thank you for your decision to back off from this article.--Rosebutterfly (talk) 08:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)