Talk:Chanyeol/Archive 1

Archive 1

Merge discussion

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I am suggesting this article to be merged into the parent article Exo (band), as the subject is not notable outside of the group. A1candidate (talk · contribs) argues Park merits an article because "the singer has a large fan base, which satisfies the criteria listed at WP:ENTERTAINER" based on one article by The Daily Beast. This is simply insufficient, especially when you consider what the website covers (ranging from his birthday to... his hair). The fact that half the article is about him being in Exo further supports my position that he isn't notable on his own. Half of the references are to articles about the group as a whole, and the remaining half aren't any better. One is a link to a Wordpress blog, two are a link to separate videos, and one is a dead link. Nearly all the information included in this article is already mentioned in the Exo article, and he simply does not meet WP:MUSBIO (noting that Exo's notability is not automatically inherited to each member; Park as an individual does not meet the criteria). So, with that, I'd like to hear the thoughts of others on the matter to come to a consensus regarding the article's fate as a redirect or a stand-alone article. — ξ^xplicit 02:31, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

• Support - I would definitely merge them as all the info from that page is already on the Exo (band) article. It would be unnecessary to keep them separate.Flarepik (talk) 12:03, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Same. Merge it! Jwt987 (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

• To be honest, if there were to be extra pages for ALL exo members, it would actually be better. The reasons to this are as noted below;

1. It gives more notable details that are in depth to fans that wants to know specifically about each of them - WHEN MORE INFOS ARE RELEASED 2. It comes up on google, if I'm not wrong. Try searching daehyun on it, a picture and a short description of daehyun comes up on the right side of the search results - this tells us how each BAP members are also getting their own wikipedia page. I'm guessing that most members of groups in SM has their own page(?) Leetuek? Heechul? Taeyeon? Sulli? Krystal? Onew? Not to mention others from other companies - including rookies. As a fan of them, wouldn't it be cool to have them pop up when googling their name? And besides, wouldn't it show popularity(?) && for those who are claiming on how we can create their pages later on, check the next point. 3. I actually think that it's way more easier to update one by one on their in-depth information -as the fan of the specific idol would ofcourse, update it. I know that the infos written on the page is purely what is mentioned on the parent article, but as they grow, wouldn't their infos grow too? Won't they need their own page to put all the details on? - I'm guessing that we wouldnt put every single detail of each member on this one page. AND plus, creating a page for each member right now would save the name from others that might want to use it later on. Best Regards :), a fellow exotic. PS. This is only my opinion on this, everything else is upto you guys, this is just what i think. I apologize for my false claiming if some of my infos are incorrect. ^^ WE CAN START OFF FRESH FOR EACH OF THE MEMBERS - AND BUILD UP AS THEY GROW! We should really just state their simple details such as age, birth month, names and such on the main group page like what others do, while their indepth infos on their own individual ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.207.145.47 (talk • contribs)

• support' merge. Building an encyclopedia is not about satisfying fans. That's what fan websites are for... This is an encíclopedia about notable people. EXO members are not notable as individuals. They are only part of a group and have no documented individual activities. Leetuk or G-Dragon or Jajeoong and others, who have separate articles have individual activities besides their band. They have solo projects, act in dramas/musicals/movies or MC on different tv shows, and these are separately documented from their group activites by reliable sources. Please learn to distinguish between fan desires and encyclopedic content. Wikipedia is not your fanclub webpage. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 23:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
• Merge - Its not like Chanyeol is an actor, model, DJ, MC or has done something significant outside the group of Exo. Farjad0322 (talk) 21:37, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
• This article doesn't really give information that I can't already find on the Exo page

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Name in Hanja or Chinese

Chanyeol's Chinese name should be "朴灿烈" (Pǔcànliè). Why is it showing a plain 朴찬열? Please update this soon. Tentenpuri (talk) 10:48, 19 April 2015 (UTC) Source:http://s.weibo.com/weibo/%25E6%259C%25B4%25E7%2581%25BF%25E7%2583%2588&xsort=time&Refer=STopic_subsribe

Hyphenate his name

Regarding Chanyeol's name, wouldn't it be safe to have his article titled w/ his name hyphenated? These k-idols have their names spelt that way to conform to anglicized standards. Fellow labelmates such as Jonghyun, Minho and Taeyeon have their article titles hyphenated. Korean celebs like Lee Byung-hun and Kim Tae-hee are examples upon many. Idealtype 07:41, 30 June 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idealtype (talk • contribs)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2016

Spouse: Baekhyun Kdrama addict11 (talk) 18:17, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2016

Park Chanyeol (born (1992-11-27)November 27, 1992), aka God's greatest creation™ is a South Korean singer, rapper, and actor who is a member of the South Korean-Chinese boy group EXO and its sub-unit EXO-K. 95.112.27.54 (talk) 15:10, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a place to post fancruft - Arjayay (talk) 15:27, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Career section

In my opinion the career section for a multitainer should signify their works in different areas, and Chanyeol's volume of individual activities do not warrant a chronological segmentation (just yet). FoxSerfaty (talk) 04:04, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2016

Park Chanyeol's name is "Park Chanyeol Paksu" in the Finnish language. This should be added somewhere on his page. It causes confusion to to people who live in Finland who often refer to him as "Paksu." Please make this change as soon as possible. Thank you. Getinmesuga00 (talk) 03:55, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:47, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 26 January 2017

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The result of the move request was: No consensus, so not moved.
I looked for guidance in WP:RMCI on what the effect should be of a "no consensus" close, but found none. It seems to me that the possible options are 1/ retain current title, 2/ revert to most recent stable title, and 3/ revert to title chosen by the page's creator. In this case, the current title appears to have been stable for 2½ years, so options 1 and 2 produce the same outcome. Since the current title has been stable for longer than the previous title, I will retain that one. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:09, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

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Park Chanyeol → Park Chan-yeol – Korean name convention always has a dash XPG 03:02, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

his is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 14:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose controversial Sawol (talk) 05:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
• @XPrintGirl and Sawol: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
• Support again, no evidence that another English spelling is the personal preference. No matter what the company chooses to stylize it, it is consistent with WP:NC-KO and other Korean sources. Evaders99 (talk) 06:04, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
  • This seems to cite no relevant argument or evidence at all. Is there any evidence that the proposed move is according to their common usage in English sources? (my emphasis) If not, then the move is not consistent with WP:NC-KO at all. Andrewa (talk) 04:34, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Well I could read to you WP:NC-KO, mainly how Korean names are generally romanized. Common usage would put all first names as usage, except his last name is used fairly often. Is this better? :)

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Sources per [4]

So how is this inconsistent with WP:NC-KO? Other options would be Park Chanyeol or Park Chan Yeol, but aren't really consistent with other Korean names Evaders99 (talk) 07:46, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

A little better, but not really on the money yet. See #Discussion. Andrewa (talk) 00:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose - Sources use the current name: Inquirer.net, IB Times (India) (also), VietnamNet, Korea Portal, Asia Starz, New Straits Times, The Verge. Less sources use the proposed name ("Chan-yeol"/"Chan Yeol"): IB Times (India), Korea Herald, Inquisitr. George Ho (talk) 05:49, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

Please place !votes above this section, and detailed discussions within it.

I note that this would reverse a previous undiscussed move 08:01, 29 July 2014‎ Sawol (talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (43 bytes) (+43)‎ . . (Sawol moved page Park Chan-yeol to Park Chanyeol over redirect).

Note also that Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean)#Romanization of names reads in part Personal, organization, and company names should generally be romanized according to their common usage in English sources. Andrewa (talk) 14:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Replying to User:Evaders99's post above:

By all means read me the guideline, it gives me some comfort to know you've read it!

And the three sources you quote are better than nothing, but they don't answer the question. There's no doubt that some sources use both styles. The question is what is common usage in English sources. Individual examples don't address this. And that is why the argument, to date, is not consistent with the guideline. The guideline seems in fact to have been ignored. The name is dropped, but has it even been read? Andrewa (talk) 00:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

That's fine if the consensus disagrees. It is apparent that common name VS WP:SINGLENAME conflict, which is being fought on Im Yoon-ah and Jang Wooyoung and other Kpop artists. I have no stake in this single article, only that it be applied consistently. Evaders99 (talk) 03:23, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Don't like to repeat myself, so please see my arguments regarding this in Talk:Im Yoon-ah and Talk:Jang Wooyoung. Technically, Chan-yeol are two separate words that are being joint together. Please see the recent move discussion on Talk:Kim Se-jeong as well. Thanks!--TerryAlex (talk) 18:26, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018

I just want to edit his wiki Mariane Barrientos (talk) 02:40, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

You can post here what you want to change in a "change X to Y" format. It must have reliable sources for the change. You become an autoconfirmed user after 4 days and 10 edits, at which point you can make edits to semiprotected articles yourself. Evaders99 (talk) 05:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2019

We should add the fact that Chanyeol is an Acqua Di Parma muse to the fashion category. Miya1512 (talk) 17:12, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:24, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Park Chanyeol Page Songwriting Credit Addition: XOXO (Repackage 'Growl') - Lucky

Hi! Someone directed me here because I wanted to mention that I am a new user so I can't edit this page, but it'd be great if someone who can could fix the discrepancy on Chanyeol's songwriting credits. Both he and his fellow EXO member, Baekhyun wrote the lyric for the song 'Lucky' for the album Growl, but it is not listed in the credits for songs he's written. I fixed that for the page for the XOXO album, but this page is protected. It'd be nice if someone could fix this! If not, I'll end up fixing it at some point when I can. Thank you!Berry6104 (talk) 20:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for this? Evaders99 (talk) 21:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2021

Change the main photo on park chanyeol's wikipedia page to https://t1.daumcdn.net/cfile/tistory/995D86375D567E770D or https://img1.daumcdn.net/thumb/R1280x0/?scode=mtistory2&fname=https%3A%2F%2Fk.kakaocdn.net%2Fdn%2FUDci0%2FbtqugSl5XNg%2FWNeqBKgbcAsi0C1zGx1XY0%2Fimg.jpg. Also, add "acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass, piano, drums, and djembe" on his instruments section. Dianalilyofthevalley (talk) 14:29, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done There is no evidence that either of these images are available under a free license, please see Wikipedia's image use policy. As for the instruments, this is for instruments which he is known for playing professionally; there is no sourced mention of these in the article. Alex (talk) 15:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Chanyeol's Enlistment

I'm just curious that he is serving, but it doesn't state like active duty, or like as a public service worker??? 41.114.252.92 (talk) 09:35, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

It's active duty, I've made the change and added a reliable source. Thank you for your feedback. RetiredDuke (talk) 13:58, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2022

"Please include Chanyeol's signature in this article" BBH506EXO (talk) 14:10, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please link to an uploaded image of the signature to be added to the infobox before requesting for the signature to be added. Thanks, Terasail^[✉️] 14:24, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 1 March 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky (talk) 13:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Park Chanyeol → Chanyeol – Per WP:COMMONNAME and his Korean Movie Database, HanCinema, Naver, and Daum profiles, and most reliable sources (be it English, Korean or other languages) refers him by his stage name not his birth name. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 05:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

• Support as per nom. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:16, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Korea has been notified of this discussion. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 08:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Biography has been notified of this discussion. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 08:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Support per nom. toobigtokale (talk) 02:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

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