Talk:Central Alaskan Yupʼik

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Kdtbhl in topic Number of Speakers
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Article's title

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Amakuru, do you think you might be able to move the article back to Central Alaskan Yup'ik language? This is a more common name for the language (see the article's bibliography and the list at glottolog). and it avoids confusion with Yupik language (which is now only one apostrophe away)? – Uanfala (talk) 00:48, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Uanfala: apologies, I missed this request. Done.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:22, 24 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment. This language is also called "Central Yupik" (the central variety of the Yupik languages). That's different from "Central Yupʼik", or Yugtun, which is the central dialect of Yupʼik / Central Alaskan Yupik. The apostrophe in "Central Alaskan Yupʼik" is a tautology, since "Yupʼik" already means that it's the Central Alaskan variety. — kwami (talk) 10:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Organization of the article

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The overall organization of this article is in need of improvement. Here are the main issues that I see.

  • There's a macro-section "Features" which has very little content, and what content there is repeated elsewhere in the article. I propose we get rid of this section, but include some general features of the language in the introduction.
  • There's a lot of of content under "Morphology" that seems better suited elsewhere. For instance, "Syntax" and "Word order" are currently subsections of "Morphology", but syntax and word order aren't directly related to morphology in the usual descriptions of languages. (And in fact, WikiProject Languages recommends organizing sections such that one is not a subsection of the other). I think there's two ways of reorganizing accordingly. The first option is that "Word order" would fit under "Syntax" (word order being, after all, a reflection of syntax), and "Syntax" should have its own macro-section. However, on this reorganization, things might get tricky with the discussion of case and transitivity, since case and transitivity are things that are determined by Yup'ik syntax but very important in Yup'ik morphology. So the other option is that we have one big section called "Morphology and Syntax", since these things are so intertwined.
  • Finally, the focus of the "Space indicators" and "Time indicators" sections is not the morphology (or syntax) of these adverbs, but rather the semantic distinctions they make, so I propose there should be a new macro-section called "Space and time indicators" that exclusively discusses these adverbs.

Kdtbhl (talk) 16:16, 4 September 2020 (UTC)KdtbhlReply

Resolved

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The above has been resolved. Kdtbhl (talk) 17:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Number of Speakers

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The Ethnologue citation in the infobox template is behind a paywall. The US Census (census.gov) has 2010 info on number of speakers, but it doesn't distinguish native from non-native speakers. Should the citation be updated? Kdtbhl (talk) 17:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)Reply