Talk:Celtic Congress

Latest comment: 14 years ago by MacTire02 in topic Definitions

Flags

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If one wants to add flags, there should be an explanation of the reason why they are there. We could also add maps, list capitals, etc. There is no relevance to simply plonking a list of flags in the middle of an article with no mention fore or aft as to their significance. If one feels that there should be a representation in flags of the Celtic countries, then there could be a link to another article for futher clarification on what are Celtic countries. Enzedbrit 20:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Definitions

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There needs to be some kind of definition as to what the Celtic Congress considers a "Celtic" nation to be. Is it a country in which a Celtic language is spoken? There's also the inconsistancy that Cornwall is included (rather than all of England being included due to Cornwall) while all of Scotland is included due (presumably) to Gaelic, which is not spoken over the whole country. The Lowlands and Northern Isles are Scots and English speaking (Or Scots, Shetlandic, Orcadian and English speaking) and are thus linguistically Germanic, not Celtic. The same reasoning could be extended to Ireland, where even the official Gaeltacht is very small. - Donnchadh mac Alasdair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.81.254.74 (talk) 15:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Cornwall is included as it is the titular region for the language known as Cornish. All of Cornwall once spoke Cornish, but not all of England, therefore not all of England is included. All of Scotland, with the exception of Orkney (possibly Gaelic speaking at some point) and Shetland (definitely not Gaelic speaking at any point) was once Gaelic speaking. As well as this Orkney and Shetland were legally integrated into Scotland without any current legal barriers. This is not the case with Cornwall. Currently Cornwall is considered a traditional county of England, however its status is disputed. Many within the Cornish Celtic movement regard Cornwall as being subject to "illegal" occupation by the English, and they regard the Duke of Cornwall as their Head of State and not the Queen. From a Celtic Congress point of view, Cornwall's status is no different from the status afforded Wales in the early part of the 20th century - i.e. a piece of Britain occupied by England but with just as much right to its own special status similar to Wales. Obviously other viewpoints differ, but for the purposes of the Celtic Congress, Cornwall has its own titular Celtic language, its own flag, its own separate legal status (currently in question), etc. etc. --MacTire02 (talk) 14:00, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Reply