Talk:Kate Reignolds
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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Amakuru in topic Requested move 26 November 2022
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Requested move 26 November 2022
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved to Kate Reignolds — Amakuru (talk) 12:43, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Catherine Mary Winslow → Catherine Mary Reignolds – All of the scholarly literature is titled after her maiden name, Catherine Mary Reignolds, which was the name she was widely known by publicly. She never performed under her married name of Winslow, and only performed under the name of Catherine Mary Reignolds. We should follow the scholarly literature on this actress and use her stage/maiden name. 4meter4 (talk) 15:15, 26 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:10, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. She's mentioned under her married name here and here. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 16:06, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- @ Ficaia Correct and incorrect. Both of those sources (one of which is a primary source that lacks independence) title her name Catherine Mary Reignolds-Winslow with a hyphenated last name. No sources title it without the Reignolds being included; and the best independent sources by recent scholars (such as her entry in the American National Biography) all omit Winslow entirely in their titling practices. I would be willing to go with this hyphenated name as a compromise, but strongly oppose the current title which does not reflect the sources and is essentially WP:OR. As the subject's own writings in your one example were published under the hyphenated name, it's pretty clear she herself did not drop her maiden name. We shouldn't impose original naming conventions onto subjects. That's a misrepresentation of the person and makes it difficult for readers to find the article, as they aren't likely to use this name in searching for the subject. 4meter4 (talk) 03:07, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4 I would support the hyphenated name. It seems to be how she wanted to be known as she wrote a book under that name. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 07:04, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- @ Ficaia Correct and incorrect. Both of those sources (one of which is a primary source that lacks independence) title her name Catherine Mary Reignolds-Winslow with a hyphenated last name. No sources title it without the Reignolds being included; and the best independent sources by recent scholars (such as her entry in the American National Biography) all omit Winslow entirely in their titling practices. I would be willing to go with this hyphenated name as a compromise, but strongly oppose the current title which does not reflect the sources and is essentially WP:OR. As the subject's own writings in your one example were published under the hyphenated name, it's pretty clear she herself did not drop her maiden name. We shouldn't impose original naming conventions onto subjects. That's a misrepresentation of the person and makes it difficult for readers to find the article, as they aren't likely to use this name in searching for the subject. 4meter4 (talk) 03:07, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. Policy at Wikipedia:Article titles, section Use commonly recognizable names suggests "Wikipedia ... generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)". Four of the five sources adduced for this article use Reignolds. If policy is to be followed, then the article will be Reignolds. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:43, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support but suggest Kate Reignolds would be better, as the name by which she seems best known. In any case, redirects are needed from all variations encountered in the sources, including Catherine Winslow and the 4-part name with and without hyphen. PamD 06:41, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- @PamD I agree that Kate Reignolds is probably the best choice per WP:COMMONNAME. Catherine Mary Reignolds-Winslow might be the most suitable choice for building a consensus. I would support either of these options.4meter4 (talk) 00:48, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: relisting for a clearer consensus. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:10, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging Ssilvers who is active in theatre wikiprojects. What is your opinion on this?4meter4 (talk) 17:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support move to Kate Reignolds per PamD and WP:COMMONNAME, and then add redirects from the variants. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
- Ficaia, Tagishsimon: any thoughts on a move to Kate Reignolds? — Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support (and no objection to moving to Kate Reignolds). SilkTork (talk) 09:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.