Talk:Bruce Springsteen discography

Never a #1

Are you telling me that Bruce Springsteen's Dancing in the Dark and Born in the U.S.A. never topped the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart? I find that hard to believe. I'm shocked that Bruce Springsteen never had a #1 single.

Jason [18:02, 21 February 2006 70.24.63.185]

It's true - see AMG: [1] Rhobite 21:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Singles that weren't singles

The Singles section is full of album tracks that got enough airplay to make the Mainstream Rock or Adult Contemporary charts, but were not actually released as singles. Seems to me, they should be removed. Wasted Time R 14:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Follow-up: these were removed, as part of the Aug-Nov 2008 work done on the Singles section. Wasted Time R (talk) 14:56, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Trapped

Iv got just about every springsteen album and iv never heard of a song called trapped befour suposedly from the born in the usa album, evan got to number 1 in the U.S. Maintstream rock chart

Fixed now. Was on the We Are the World benefit album. Wasted Time R 11:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Seeger Sessions UK sales

With this edit User:81.35.74.76 claimed that We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions had 500,000 sales in the UK. This is highly unlikely, given the sales of his earlier albums there, and indeed a search of the BPI certifications database at http://www.bpi.co.uk/ shows a lot of entries for Springsteen but none for The Seeger Sessions. I'm removing it. Wasted Time R 11:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Extra Single to be added.

Santa Claus Is Coming To Town - UK single released 14th December 1985 Reached number 9 on the UK chart.

To check UK chart entries use www.everyhit.com.

121translation (talk) 01:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

As no-one has commented on this nor updated the page, I have updated the 1985 singles to reflect a UK chart hit, I do not know if this charted in the US at the same time. 121translation (talk) 10:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

It was a double-sided hit with "My Hometown", as was "I'm on Fire"/"Born in the U.S.A.". The way the table shows it now, it looks like each of these were separate releases in the UK. I'm not sure how best to portray this, though. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Uk Album Awards (BPI)

The official Bruce Springsteen's album awards, in UK, (BPI certfications), need a strong update. "All" his albums are under-certified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.172.79.179 (talk) 21:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

The 21 forget CD's

I don't know how to edit the main page... so, i write here...

The discography miss a major release... a collector item from 19 Cd's released in 1996 and called "The Lost Masters"... They are real since i have them... along, was released two CD called "the essential collection" ( the only two CD missing in my collection )... a reference to these 19+2 cd's can be find at http://www.newc.com/theboots/lostmasters/default.html

Maybe someone can be friendly enough for add these to the discography... my english is bad since it is not my main language...

EDIT : Found a other reference at http://www.brucebase.org.uk/sboot9.htm... "lost master" 20 and 21 was fake diffused on the market... a full discography can be find at http://www.brucebase.org.uk/bootin.htm... seem that i miss a lot of CD in my collection !!!

Thoumsin (talk) 21:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Those are bootlegs. We only list official, legal releases. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank for the reply Thoumsin (talk) 10:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

RIAA Certifications

Under the RIAA section of the article, there were sales figures listed in place of an RIAA certification. I've replaced the sales amounts, which also had no source, with up-to-date and accurate certifications as listed in the RIAA gold and platinum database on RIAA.com. The RIAA certifications are for how many units of an album are shipped, they don't necessarily represent the amount of copies a particular album sells. Actual sales for an album can sometimes be higher or lower than a certification given it by the RIAA.Odin's Beard (talk) 13:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

That's okay for albums earlier in his career, but you also wiped out the explicit sales figures for his more recent albums. Why? Wasted Time R (talk) 00:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Explicit in what way? There wasn't a source to back them up at all. Anybody can just toss in a number and call it a sales figure, which I'm sure probably has happened on in a lot of discography articles. Sales figures should also be listed seperately from certifications. I don't see a point in including sales for some albums rather than all of them.Odin's Beard (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Other charted songs

[copied here from my talk page]
Can you tell me what song are not singles so i can add them in the Other charted songs section. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 08:48, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Will try, but not that simple, as the current text in the section indicates. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

There are several issues here. Do we show only singles that charted somewhere, or every single released? How do we show the difference between a single that did not chart and a single that was not released at all in a country? For example, the first two singles "Blinded" and "Spirit" were only released in the US at the time, and did not chart. Maybe they should get a "—" for not charting, but just an empty cell for not being released in other countries. How do we handle delayed releases in other countries? For example, "Blinded" was not released outside the US in 1973, but was later released in Spain only in 1977 and 1985; "Sandy" was not released anywhere in 1973, but was later released in Germany only in late 1974/early 1975. And so on. Do we want to restrict the list to just singles released in the US? The US and UK? The US, UK, and the rest of Europe? Anywhere? This is especially relevant regarding singles from The River, for example, where only "Hungry Heart" and "Fade Away" were released in the US but other countries tried releasing a bunch of other tracks as singles. There are a lot of issues like these, and we don't want to include so much information that readers can't see the shape of Springsteen's singles career. The best reference on Springsteen singles that I know of is The Killing floor Bruce Springsteen discography, select "Vinyl 7 in." and then apply various filters. As you can see, there's a lot to look through, which is why I've never done a reorganization of the singles section of the discography myself. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if i got this right, but all of the song where released as singles, but not all of them was released worldwide, if so the section should be named singles. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 14:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

No, in addition to what I said above, a number of the songs listed were not released as singles anywhere. Wasted Time R (talk) 15:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

When you're finished with your work on this, take off the underconstruction tag, and then I'll try to straighten out the singles mess. Wasted Time R (talk) 16:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've done this work up through 1983, will continue sorting out the Born in the U.S.A. singles when I get a chance. Slow going. Wasted Time R (talk) 03:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Be Black Hole Sun, why do you say "No need for that, see other discographies with those problems" and then undo all my work to distinguish between a release that didn't chart in a country and no release in a country at all? There's a big difference! Springsteen's first two singles were released only in the U.S.; he wasn't even known in the rest of the world. Another of the big issues with Springsteen's career is that he only released two singles in the U.S. from The River, for example, and many people thought "Fade Away" was a poor second choice. Your version makes it seem that he released four singles in the U.S. from it, which is utterly not the case. And so on. Why do you think there is "no need" to retain this information??? Wasted Time R (talk) 11:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes i know that but thats still not needed, look at other Featured List. Se instead add a text about his singles released, but if its ever goin to be a FL it needs this "—". We should add this in the lead about his single releases. But this needs to stay "—" no matter what. My point is as long as you let these stay "—" i won't do revert okay. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 11:49, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Please show me a FL guideline or discussion where it says there has to be a "—". Wasted Time R (talk) 11:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

How about this, the singles that was only released in the united states gets its own section, okay to put an end to this discussion. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 12:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) No, that's no good, because some singles released outside the U.S. did chart, for example "The River". Also, it's well-known that "Atlantic City" was released outside the U.S. but not in the U.S. Having more than one section will just duplicate a lot of information for no real purpose. What is your objection to have two different markings, one for "released but did not chart" and one for "not released in this country"? It's perfectly reasonable information to show, any good real discography will indicate the difference. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

You know what, just do your work, i'll take it to the peer review to see if they accept it. If they do i was wrong. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 12:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Music videos section

What is the source for the new "Music videos" section? There is a lot of wrong or misleading information in it. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I've put back the "incomplete" tag on this. There are some obvious omissions: "Atlantic City" in 1982, "Rosalita" 1978 that was played heavily by MTV in the mid-1980s, and "Fire" from 1986 for example. And some of the ones that are there, seem suspect to me. And the source used for everything is Clipland; who says this is a WP:RS? Wasted Time R (talk) 14:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Vigilante Man 1988 is also missing from the list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:2E15:3500:A45E:B653:F636:46DB (talk) 14:15, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Yet another rearrangement

User:QotSA made extensive changes to this page, without any comments as to why in either edit summaries or this talk page. QotSA, you're a new user, but you should be aware that this is poor form. If you look at the history of this article, you'll see that several editors have been working on the discography, so you need to work in conjunction with them.

I've made two backouts to QotSA's edits (which doesn't mean I endorse the rest). One, the article needed a lead section, but it can't just be a copy of the main bio article's lead. It has to be something that summarizes this discography (see Coldplay discography for an example). I've rewritten the lead to reflect this. Two, the Singles section was rewritten to eliminate some countries and to remove the distinction between "never released" and "released but did not chart". I'm not sure why countries were removed, and maintaining the distinction between those two kinds of outcomes is very important for Springsteen's discography, per the discussions above. Also, I've restored the coding that gets the ToC and the infobox aligned together, and I've restored the "incomplete" tag on the Music videos section per the comment above. Wasted Time R (talk) 14:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

You don't need all the chart positions. Their where many places where Bruce Springsteen only charted 1-5 times which ain't a lot for a man who has released over 60 singles. Pluss most of these chart positions can be added on their own pages. And i've fixed the where the singles where released, just did it another way okay. Check it out. --QotSA (talk) 16:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Regarding what countries are listed, you are right that the selection was somewhat arbitrary; Japan could have been included, for example. I think we need better information on Canada, as I suspect he had more hits there than the old version listed (surely some of the Born in the U.S.A. singles must have charted). Regarding where singles were released, your new scheme assumes that non-U.S. releases were released in every country in Europe, which is not quite the case. But I guess I can live with that oversimplification. But the "D" case, international release, should be the default and require no marking. And you have some mistakes in switching over to the new scheme: the 1987-1993 ones that have no letter, all need to be "C". Wasted Time R (talk) 16:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Sock rock

As it turns out, two of the major contributors to this discography, Be Black Hole Sun and QotSA, have turned out to be socks of the same user and have been blocked. That leaves the question of what to do with his or her edits. By rights, they can all be backed out unconditionally. In this case, it's debatable whether this user's edits have improved or degraded the article; it probably varies section by section. I'm inclined to do nothing for now and leave things as they are, pending specific improvements on a per-instance basis. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Bolding album titles.

In the tables, should the album titles be boldfaced or not (see WP:MOSBOLD)? Rock'N'More (talk) 20:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

The charts for The Promise

In the "Studio albums" section, there is missing Canadian, Irish and Norwegian charts position. However, the "Compilation albums" section does have them all. I wondered if they would different albums, but both entries go to same article. 85.217.37.198 (talk) 11:12, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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The Promise

Shouldn't 'The Promise' appear somewhere in this discography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.246.252.109 (talk) 10:39, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

I hide all the live archive releases

Theres too many of them, also they occupy too much space 191.125.25.32 (talk) 22:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@191.125.25.32: MOS:NOHIDE applies. Don't hide content. Ss112 12:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)