Talk:Death of Bridget Driscoll

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A light account of the court case can be found in The Times (London) "INQUEST.-Last evening Mr. Percy Morrison," Wednesday, Aug 26, 1896. Seems to infer that the driver was a cabbie and that it was not for a special exhibition but not enough evidence to determine.

Accuracy of quotes

I've changed "tremendous speed" and "This must never happen again" quotes. They seem overdramatic and exaggerated for humor value. How could 4mph be considered "tremendous" when a pedestrian can easily outrun it? The exact quotes seem to vary among sources; but [1] seems fairly authoritative and has more plausible-sounding quotes, so I've substituted them into the article. Does someone have a more reliable, paper-book source? Redquark 15:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for providing this source. It also implies that a "reckless pace ... like a fire engine" and 4 mph were considered very different alternatives at the time, while the article makes it sound like people were referring to 4 mph as a "reckless pace". I'll change it and add the source to the article. --Allen 05:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

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Hi Widefox, you added the refimprove banner to the article - can you itemise here please which specific material you think remains unsourced. -- DeFacto (talk). 14:59, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Well it seems obvious to me, but for instance there's no source for the year of birth, and the obvious that two sources for a Start is already weak. Is that enough or should I go on? Widefox; talk 19:32, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

The BBC article, referenced at the end of the first sentence, gives her age as 44 when she was killed, which means she was born in 1851 or 1852 - perhaps we should put c.1851. Is there anything that is not verifiable from the two sources? -- DeFacto (talk). 19:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@Widefox: I've changed that, are you happy to remove the banner now, or is there anything else you think needs specific referencing? -- DeFacto (talk). 23:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

The "Weston hemisphere" is from the article, which could be similarly clarified as per [2] and then the note can be removed. Widefox; talk 19:35, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

That's in the Henry H. Bliss, not this one. -- DeFacto (talk). 19:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

That's my (unclear) point - it should be fixed in the article as using "hemisphere" to include non-land mass for driving is nonsensical. The see also's can be aligned with the corrected article. Widefox; talk 23:54, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

“Mary Driscoll”

World Health Organisation, on 19 February 2020, said “The first among these fatalities is said to be Mary Driscoll, a pedestrian struck by a car in London in 1896. At the time, the coroner was reported to have said “this should never happen again”.”

This is not saying that WHO is a superior source; merely observing the disagreement. JDAWiseman (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Clearly loads of sources that give her correct name Mrs Bridget Driscoll. MilborneOne (talk) 18:08, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. But if the WHO’s error should be copied, it does no harm for there to be an early note of it. JDAWiseman (talk) 21:45, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Interestingly her daughter was called "Mary" although reports at the time call her "May". I presume that it is Bridget and her husband Michael in the picture with her three children, Mary born 1876, John born 1879 and James born 1882. MilborneOne (talk) 22:18, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

It appears Irish women were pioneers in one unfortunate respect. Sarah777 (talk) 21:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)