Talk:Biddy Martin

Abortion Clinic

Around a third of this whole article is about her support of a controversial abortion procedure. This section is highly politicized, and represents a very small piece of her views, biography, and academic policy. I suggest removing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Horacelamb (talk • contribs) 21:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I tagged it for a pov-check per this. Daniel J Simanek (talk) 00:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Most of the information on her involvement with the abortion clinic comes directly from the UW-Madison student newspaper, The Badger Herald, which is cited almost verbatim. How is that not neutral or political when it is coming from the student newspaper? It has her direct quotes and information about her vote and her role in the abortion clinic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.195.245 (talk) 03:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Stop removing information from the student newspaper, the Badger Herald. Rep. Glenn Grothmann's quote reflects the feelings of a lot of the students and alumni!

This article's treatment of the abortion clinic issue is skewed almost entirely from the standpoint of one single interest group. It is put in place to draw attention to the abortion issue, and is at best only faintly relevant to a discussion of Martin's career as Chancellor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.246.13 (talk) 18:55, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Stop removing this controversy section about her support of a second trimester abortion clinic at the university. It is documented by objective sources. As a UW-Madison Alumna, I think it is important as do many other Wisconsin residents and natives. Maybe now that she is moving back to the East Coast, you won't have to keep re-writing Biddy Martin's "herstory". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.25.71 (talk) 00:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

The consensus is that this is a trivial matter and constitutes undue emphasis on a minor matter of her career. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Considering the fact that the majority of Wisconsinites are pro-life and that most alumni didn't support this, it is not trivial to people living here in WI. For people who just use state universities as career stepping stones, then offending a lot of the taxpayers in the state may be trivial. It was reported in the Wisconsin State Journal and Milwaukee Journal Sentinel at length in addition to the student newspapers. Supporting late term abortions is with tax payer funds isn't trivial. And if it is nothing to be ashamed of, why do you keep trying to delete it?

I have reported the deletions of the controversial sections to Wikipedia for their review. The controversy section regarding her role in the creation of a UW Health Clinic that performs late term abortions keeps getting removed despite the fact that this was front page news (February 2009) in the student newspapers, The Badger Herald (http://badgerherald.com/news/2010/12/13/uw_to_stop_efforts_o.php), for weeks as well as Wisconsin's leading newspapers, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel and the Wisconsin State Journal. (http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/39245702.html) It was also reported in the national news. (http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/secret_university_of_wisconsin_plans_for_midterm_abortion_clinic_revealed/) Also, her departure as chancellor was also related to a controversial decision she made to attempt to make the UW-Madison campus autonomous from the UW System. This is documented also in all of the major newspapers including the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (6/19/11.) A few people keep deleting the controversial sections from her biography by calling them "trivial." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.25.71 (talk) 00:09, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Is there consensus for inclusion? Not seeing it, so keep it out until that happens. --Threeafterthree (talk) 23:27, 22 June 2011 (UTC)ps, also is Martin speciffically mentioned in those articles? --Threeafterthree (talk) 23:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

The wikipedia moderator is the one who re-wrote and included the Controversy section about the abortion clinic. Yes, she is mentioned in those articles. Have you read them? Do you live in WI? Do you have any affiliation with UW-Madison? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.25.71 (talk) 21:17, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I see her name mentioned in one of the articles and not in any of the others. It seems like this is not an issue that she particularly champions or organized, she just gave a single up or down vote as a member of one committee involved in this particular process. This strikes me as needless controversy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.54.15.101 (talk) 17:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

WWII

I recall hearing that she once wrote an essay on whether WWII was a just war but I cannot seem to find anything about this. Can anybody help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.226.161.57 (talk) 02:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Citations - missing; needed

There is only one reference for the entire article. The very large section with multiple subsections, the one "Major initiatives" has no references. References need to be added for every (major) assertion or piece of information.Harel (talk) 23:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Grade Fraud Scandal

This reference is completely irrelevant to her biography, falsely claims that her predecessor was removed from office, and then cites to a document which does not address either claim. Please verify this claim with more sourcing, otherwise the statement that John Wiley was removed by the Board of Regents is patently false and must be deleted.vonbloompasha (talk) 17:10, 12 November 2010 (UTC)