Talk:Battle of Inab

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I am reverting the editor's change who put back Jihad being relatively new, because it is not true. Jihad is in the Koran and had been well-known to Muslims for more than 400 years.--AssegaiAli 12:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes but as far as I understand, the concept of jihad as "let's go conquer the infidels" was dormant in the 11th century (at least in the Middle East, where they had already conquered everyone, and were in the process of being conquered themselves by Islamicized Turks). The crusades caused that aspect of jihad to be re-examined (by Ali ibn Tahir al-Sulami for example). Adam Bishop 16:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't use the word 'dormant'; perhaps ignored is closer. Jihad was quietly forgotten during the 10th century when the emperors John I and Nicephorus II scored a series of spectacular victories against the Syrian and Mesopotamian Arabs and they settled on peace out of pragmatism. After 1071 when the Byzantines were defeated then it was used as an justification for attempting to conquer Anatolia (as you say by the Turks). Subsequently the crusaders' spectacular successes (from 1097 up until about 1120) so stunned the local Middle Eastern rulers that they made haste to accommodate themselves to the new order. Only afterwards did they discover that they could defeat the crusaders and it became convenient to raise the issue of jihad once more. Under Islamic law, jihad is always an option, which is why it can be highly offensive to people of other religions(my experience of Sikhs and Hindus I know). Today it is fashionable to soft-pedal on its implications but in medieval times it was commonly used to justify a permanent state of war broken only by truces such as between the caliphate and the byzantines throughout the 600s, 700s and 800s.--AssegaiAli 16:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Ensured that the article is: within project scope, tagged for task forces, and assessed for class. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

shirkuh

In the source I gave, it is stated that Shirkuh was also present in that war. why did you remove it? Artabanusx (talk) 22:49, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

"removed individual from infobox, not mentioned in the article". Why are you not using English sources? Instead you are using a source that is unverifiable? --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:37, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

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The Battle of Inab, also called Battle of Ard al-Hâtim or Fons Muratus, was fought on 29 June 1149, during the Second Crusade. The Zengid army of Atabeg Nur ad-Din Zangi destroyed the combined army of Prince Raymond of Poitiers and the Assassins of Ali ibn-Wafa. The Principality of Antioch was subsequently pillaged and reduced in size as its eastern border was pushed west, and both Raymond and his ally, Ali ibn-Wafa, were killed.

This image, from the 14th-century Passages d'outremer depicts the Battle of Inab in the main image, and the recovery of Raymond's body in the lower one. The volume it came from, with illustrations by Jean Colombe, is considered a masterpiece of manuscript illumination art, though it can't be considered particularly accurate to what things would have looked like in 1149.

Credit: Jean Colombe

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