Talk:Alliance of the New Citizen

Latest comment: 5 years ago by StraussInTheHouse in topic Requested move 1 March 2019

Requested move edit

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The result of the move request was: Page moved: per discussion Ground Zero | t 12:13, 11 September 2014 (UTC)Reply



CITIZENS (Slovak political party)CITIZENS – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. There is no other article on Wikipedia that used the same title with all-caps. Armbrust The Homunculus 06:28, 3 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

  • weak oppose, I'd prefer CITIZENS to either act as a redirect to Citizenship or to act as a redirect to Citizen (which is currently a redirect page to Citizenship) but to turn Citizen into a disambiguation page.
Gregkaye (talk) 15:38, 3 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose and comment. "CITIZENS"/"OBČANIA" doesn't appear to me be an acronym; the capitalization appears to me to just be a stylistic or marketing approach in presenting the name on logos, etc. So per the general principles in MOS:TM, I don't think the article title should be capitalized at all. I think the article name should be changed to Citizens (Slovak political party) (the disambiguation being necessary because of the existence of Citizens – Party of the Citizenry). Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:20, 3 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. There is no evidence that this is an acronym (which I would oppose anyway per WP:ACRONYMTITLE); lowercase/sentence case should be used per WP:LOWERCASE; and per MOS:TM follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, regardless of the preferences of the company or organisation. These are among the reasons why there are few articles on Wikipedia that use titles with all-caps. Just because an article title requires disambiguation does not automatically make it exempt from these guidelines. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:24, 4 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose per Z11 and GoodOl' ; instead use [[Citizens (Slovak political party)]] -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 06:14, 4 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose, Move to Citizens (Slovak political party) The capitalization is a stylistic choice not a grammatical one MOS:TM.--Labattblueboy (talk) 02:30, 5 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Requested move 1 March 2019 edit

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The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 14:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)Reply


Idea (political party)Alliance of the New Citizen – Only the earlier incarnation of the party that existed from 2001 to 2011 is notable. Roughly 90% of the article cover the defunct Alliance of the New Citizen (ANO) that was represented in parliament and government during the first half of the 2000s. The three short-lived, obscure successor parties are politically irrelevant and only merit a side note of the article: SSS-NM won 1.2% in 2012 (meaning no parliamentary representation) while OBČANIA and the current incarnation IDEA have not even fielded candidates in national elections at all (and there is no evidence for any representation at the local level either). There is no way IDEA would have a Wikipedia article were it not the legal successor to the once notable ANO. Only one lean sentence of the article does even mention the current incarnation (IDEA). Moreover, the successor parties of ANO may be its legal successors, but they are not related politically, in terms of organisation or personnel: ANO was practically defunct in 2011 (not having run in the 2010 election) and was merely bought by Nora Mojsejová, similar to a shelf corporation, because the existing party was automatically qualified for the election, while a newly-founded party would have been required to garner 10,000 supporters' signatures (see here). There is quite a number of mentions of the Alliance of the New Citizen or ANO in political science literature, while I could not find any secondary sources on IDEA, because this party is politically irrelevant and no scholar would busy oneself with it. The title should match the article's content which is 90% about ANO and only devotes one sentence to IDEA. RJFF (talk) 11:00, 1 March 2019 (UTC)--Relisted. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:04, 9 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • Support per nom. Shuffle off the successor parties to their own, brief section. SnowFire (talk) 22:18, 11 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

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