Talk:Adrian of May

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Eldr-fire in topic Ethernan

Name on Pictish Stones?

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A number of class ii Pictish stones bear inscriptions that have at least some superficial similarity to Etharnon:

  • Scoonie stone (from Scoonie in Fife, near Methil) bears in ogham: EDDAR R NON N
  • The Rodney stone (from Brodie castle, Moray) ogham: eddarrnonn
  • The Fordoun stone (Fordoun, Aberdeenshire) latin: pidarnoin

These inscriptions are probably early enough to relate to Etharnon, but we're in the realms of original research here. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 12:23, 25 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Ethernan

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This saint is actually a medieval misremembering of the cult of St Ethernan of May. Ethernan was killed in 669 by the Picts and was buried on the Isle of May and culted throughout Pictland (hence the inscriptions mentioned in an above section). He was later reimagined as a martyr of the Viking attack on the island in the 9th century. See The Place-Names of Fife: Volume 3 (Simon Taylor and Gilbert Márkus), p. 323; Thomas Clancy, "Deer and the early church in North-Eastern Scotland” in Katherine Forsyth (ed.), Studies on the Book of Deer (Dublin, 2008), p. 375, n. 10; and Peter Yeoman, "Pilgrims to St Ethernan: the Archaeology of an Early Saint of the Picts and Scots” in Barbara E. Crawford (ed.), Conversion and Christianity in the North Sea World (St Andrews, 1998), pp. 75-91. Note that there is no evidence whatsoever that he was ever bishop of St Andrews; he died before St the monastery at St Andrews was founded in the 8th century. This article should either be renamed to reflect Ethernan, or make a clearer distinction between the historical Ethernan and the legendary Adrian (who were treated as separate saints in the Aberdeen Breviary, by which point their divergent cults had established them as separate saints). --Eldr-fire (talk) 19:19, 2 March 2019 (UTC)Reply