Talk:Abdullah of Córdoba

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On 23 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Abdullah ibn Muhammad al-Umawi to Abdallah of Córdoba. The result of the discussion was moved to Abdullah of Córdoba.

Requested move 23 March 2022 edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago5 comments5 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) (Edit:) - per WP:OTHEROPTIONS, it seems a better choice might be "Abdullah" versus "Abdallah", with the article largely using that spelling already and one editor preferring it with another being indifferent. Based on that, I will be moving this to that title, but if another title is preferred, another discussion can be opened. ASUKITE 14:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Abdullah ibn Muhammad al-Umawi → Abdallah of Córdoba – English sources generally spell the name "Abdallah" or "Abd Allah" rather than "Abdullah (example sources listed below). I have no feelings about whether the space should be present after "Abd", but I assume people are more used to the name without a space. Some other notes: We could move the page to "Abdallah ibn Muhammad", which currently redirects here, but that name is easily shared by other persons. The "al-Umawi" in the current title is simply Arabic for "the Umayyad"; rather than have a basically Arabic disambiguator, the "of Córdoba" is a more understandable English disambiguator and is also consistent with the title format of other articles about Umayyad emirs (e.g. Muhammad I of Córdoba, Hisham I of Córdoba, etc). Example sources for spelling of name:

Kennedy, Hugh (1996). Muslim Spain and Portugal: A Political History of al-Andalus. p. 312 (and elsewhere)
Bosworth, Clifford Edmund (2004). "The Spanish Umayyads" in The New Islamic Dynasties: A Chronological and Genealogical Manual.
Marín, Manuela (2009). "Córdoba, Caliphate of" in The Oxford Encyclopedia of the Islamic World, edited by John L. Esposito.
Catlos, Brian A. (2018). Kingdoms of Faith: A New History of Islamic Spain. p. 435 (and elsewhere)

Thanks, R Prazeres (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 18:57, 30 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 20:46, 6 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Note: WikiProject Biography has been notified of this discussion. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 18:57, 30 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Support - I have a preference for Abdullah (see Abdullah (name)). I would go with "Abdullah ibn Muhammad of Córdoba". Cuñado ☼ - Talk 23:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Support. Indifferent between Abdullah and Abdallah. Would prefer not to have patronym in title (consistent with other Ummayad emirs/caliphs of Cordoba). I couldn't find any other Abdullah in the lists for the taifa kingdom of Cordoba, so it seems to be fairly safe without. Walrasiad (talk) 10:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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