Talk:2022 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game

Requested move 22 September 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 00:55, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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• 2022 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Game → 2022 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game
• 2021 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Game → 2021 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game
• 2022 NCAA Division I Women's Basketball Championship Game → 2022 NCAA Division I women's basketball championship game
• Template:Ivy League Men's Basketball Tournament navbox → Template:Ivy League men's basketball tournament navbox
• Template:Great West Conference Men's Basketball Tournament navbox → Template:Great West Conference men's basketball tournament navbox
• Template:CAA Women's Basketball Tournament navbox → Template:CAA women's basketball tournament navbox

– Case norm, like the 3500 other men's basketball tournament articles, etc., recent moved to lowercase. Note: Need to get explicit consensus again to get bot help for about 200 moves with these patterns, including about 66 Templates and a bunch of championship game articles. Dicklyon (talk) 03:21, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

• Note that sources don't cap things like "Men's Basketball Championship Game". The templates to move are listed in User:Dicklyon/Templates to move; many others were moved to lowercase already. Dicklyon (talk) 03:27, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
• Re-evaluate considering the recent capitalization-related discussion on Talk:Wild Card Series and Talk:Division Series. I think there may be a case to undo all the recent NCAA capitalization moves. O.N.R. ^(talk) 04:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

  Are you suggesting that there could be a case for capitalizing "Men's Basketball Tournament" and such? Dicklyon (talk) 16:17, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, that is exactly what I'm suggesting. O.N.R. ^(talk) 01:54, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

  "Division Series" is capped as a trademark of MLB. I don't think we've seen anything like that for "wild card series" (for which closer noted there was no clear consensus on capitalization, and which is not a trademark) nor for "men's basketball championship" (for which there was a clear consensus for lowercase). Is there now a new case to capitalize those? Dicklyon (talk) 04:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support. Use lower-case since articles are not consistently capitalizing these things.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:47, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support per SMcCandlish. Tony (talk) 01:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support Using 2022 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship Game as an example, NCAA is an initialism of National Collegiate Athletic Association. Per MOS:INSTITUTIONS, we would capitalise the expanded form, even though it might be considered a descriptive name and not a true proper name. Everything thereafter is descriptive, with no inherent reason to capitalise but I will confine my comment to the downcasing proposed. Per evidence provided by the Nom, capitalisation in sources is mixed. Therefore, per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS the guidance is to use lowercase. That the NCAA (and similar organisations) might capitalise events under their auspices is immaterial, since they are not independent of the subject (per MOS:CAPS). Cinderella157 (talk) 06:49, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support per Cinderella157 and SMcCandlish. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:45, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support No need to captitalize when it reads fine as a lowercase basic English description.—Bagumba (talk) 06:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2022 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Newtothisedit (talk · contribs) 18:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

What a game, glad to see it as a GA nominee. I have a few things on my plate but should start leaving comments in a few days.--Newtothisedit (talk) 18:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

@Newtothisedit I believe I've covered all of your suggestions; let me know if anything else needs to be done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:10, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Looks good to me, I'll pass it. Congrats!--Newtothisedit (talk) 17:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

GA Criteria

Article meets GA criteria

Lead

• Add something about Kansas entering the game seeking their 4th title and UNC seeking their 7th. Most collegiate championships articles feature this in the lead
  •  Done
• I'd add the specific score Kansas fell behind
  •  Done

Participants

• "a former Tar Heels player who took over for Roy Williams," add that Williams retired, right now it's unclear in the article of why Hubert took over.
  •  Done added mention that Williams retired
• "most lopsided No. 8 vs. No. 9 seed in NCAA tournament history" change to "most lopsided No. 8 vs. No. 9 seed matchup in NCAA tournament history"
  •  Done didn't change to that exact wording, but I tried to make this more clear
• Add mention of win over UCLA
  •  Done
• "the tourney's underdog, Saint Peter's" to "the tourney's Cinderella, Saint Peter's"
  •  Done but I expanded "tourney's" to "tournament's"
• "North Carolina's biggest rival, Duke" The wording of this is a little clunky. Maybe change to something along the lines of "arch rival Duke"
  •  Done changed "North Carolina's" to "their"
• "Kansas received a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament" Add what region they were the 1 seed of
  •  Done
• I'd add a sentence about Kansas's tournament path
  •  Done
• "Martin had been their leading scorer in three games" to "Martin led the team in scoring in three games"
  •  Done didn't change to that exact wording, but I tried to improve this

Game summary

• "Bacot ended with 15 points and 15 rebounds, becoming the first to have a double-double in all six tournament games" to "Bacot ended with 15 points and 15 rebounds, becoming the first player to record a double-double in all six tournament games" make sure to hyperlink to double-double as well. You could also mention Bacot pursuing this in the participants section as Kansas currently has more player background in that section
  •  Done changed the word in Bacot's section, and double-double is already linked. I will look to potentially add a sentence or two about some UNC players in that section.
  • Note - just added some info about Bacot and another UNC player in their section.

Media coverage

• I'd add the viewership/rating the game got in this section
  •  Done couldn't readily find the Nielsen rating (if you can find it I will definitely add it) but I did add viewership information.
  • For some reason, I didn't spot the rating in the infobox until now; the source does not explicitly mention the rating that the telecast received (apparently 13.2), so I've commented that out for now.

Spot Checks

References 3, 6 and 16 all match whats in article and are from reliable sources.