Talk:2007 Tennis Masters Cup

Doubles

Why is Knowle/Aspelin No2 in their group and not No1??? Makes no sense at all. -128.131.213.60 16:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

SF qualifiers in Singles

There seems to be lot of difference in opinion about Roddick's qualification for SFs. While CieloEstrellado does seem to have a good point, I'd really like if everyone could explain their points here, especially in light of [1] --LeaveSleaves 08:07, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Rules

From the ATP 2007 Official Rulebook.

III. World Championships

3.01 Tennis Masters Cup

D. Order of Play. Round Robin

1) The field shall be divided into two (2) groups of four (4) players each. The top-seeded player shall be placed in Group "A" and the second-seeded player shall be placed in Group "B". Players seeded three and four, five and six, and seven and eight, shall then be drawn in pairs with the first drawn placed into Group "A."

2) Each player shall play every other player in his group to determine the top two (2) players in each group.

3) The final standings of each group shall be determined by the first of the following methods that apply:

a) Greatest number of wins;

b) Greatest number of matches played;

c) Head-to-head results if only two (2) players are tied, or if three (3) players are tied, then:

i) If three (3) players each have one win, a player having played less than all three (3) matches is automatically eliminated and the player advancing to the Single Elimination competition is the winner of the match-up of the two (2) players tied with 1-2 records; or

ii) Highest percentage of sets won; or

iii) Highest percentage of games won.

iv) If (i), (ii) or (iii) produce one superior player (first place), or one inferior player (third place), and the two remaining players are tied, the tie between those two players shall be broken by head-to-head record.

4) If ties still exist after the above procedures, the Steering Committee shall make the final determination.

5) In applying the tie-breaking procedures, a conduct default or retirement shall count as a straight-set win or loss. However, games won or lost in matches with the default- ing or retiring player shall not be counted in the application of subsection 3.c. (iii) above. A player who retires during the Round Robin because of illness or injury may continue in the competition if it is approved by the Tournament Doctor.

6) Any player who is defaulted pursuant to the ATP Code during the Round Robin competition shall be defaulted from all other matches in the Championship and the ATP default provisions shall apply, except for the following circumstances:

a) The loss of physical condition; or

b) Dress and Equipment.

7) Any player who withdraws from any Round Robin match after the first round shall not be eligible for the Single Elimination competition.

☆ CieloEstrellado 09:22, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Why Roddick isn't in semis yet

Take the following:

• Federer beats Roddick 6-0, 6-0
• González beats Davydenko 6-0, 6-0

Player	Match W-L	Sets W-L	Games W-L
Federer	2 - 1	5 - 2 (71%)	41 - 24 (63%)
González	2 - 1	4 - 3 (57%)	34 - 29 (54%)
Roddick	2 - 1	4 - 3 (57%)	28 - 28 (50%)
Davydenko	0 - 3	1 - 6 (14%)	18 - 40 (31%)

If González and Roddick were tied in Games W-L, only then would the tie-breaker be decided by their head-to-head results. ☆ CieloEstrellado 11:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not true. Only head-to-head results without Davydenko.

Player	Match W-L	Sets W-L
Federer	1 - 1	3 - 2 (60%)
Roddick	1 - 1	2 - 2 (50%)
González	1 - 1	2 - 3 (40%)

Kedarus 11:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Your table is wrong. Roddick has already won two matches and he's 4-1 is sets. ☆ CieloEstrellado 12:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)