Category talk:Zionism in Mandatory Palestine

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Fayenatic london in topic Re: Arab League/world

Re: Arab League/world

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Concerning the definition of the Arab World, see the following reference: "No universally accepted definition of 'the Arab world' exists, but it is generally assumed to include the twenty-two countries belonging to the Arab League that have a combined population of about 280 million" (Seib 2005, 604). Arab League was established in 1945 and Mandatory Palestine was not a member; Palestine was a member of the British Commonwealth.GreyShark (dibra) 21:24, 13 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

That does not say "Arab World is limited to" the members of the Arab League.
Arab_world#Ancillary_linguistic_definition also says, "As an alternative to,[1] or in combination with,[2] the standard territorial definition, the Arab world may be defined as consisting of peoples and states united to at least some degree by Arabic language, culture or geographic contiguity,[3]". That would include Mandatory Palestine.
Or are you claiming that the term "Arab world" is anachronistic for any entity before 1945? – Fayenatic London 21:41, 13 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
  1. ^ Rejwan: 52
  2. ^ Frishkopf: 61: "No universally accepted definition of 'the Arab world' exists, but it is generally assumed to include the twenty-two countries belonging to the Arab League that have a combined population of about 280 million (Seib 2005, 604). For the purposes of this introduction, this territorial definition is combined with a linguistic one (use of the Arabic language, or its recognition as critical to identity), and thereby extended into multiple diasporas, especially the Americas, Europe, Southeast Asia, West Africa, and Australia."
  3. ^ Sullivan and Ismael: ix
I'm claiming mainly that Arab League is simply anachronistic until 1945, so is barely relevant to Mandatory Palestine; and of course Mandatory Palestine never joined the Arab League and was never defined part of the Arab World in any source i've ever seen - you cannot put a country as part of the Arab World without at least some sourcing.GreyShark (dibra) 16:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Greyshark09: The question here is whether Zionism in Mandatory Palestine should be a sub-cat of Category:Zionism in the Arab world – not Arab League. The term "Arab world" predates the Arab league, e.g. see this Ngram which shows that it was used in books from about 1920. I can't think any any reason why Mandatory Palestine would not be considered part of the Arab world at the time. Did the 1936-39 Arab Revolt (which was in Mandatory Palestine) take place outside the Arab world? – Fayenatic London 19:24, 15 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
We should simply rename category:Zionism in the Arab world to Category:Zionism in the Arab League and not try to apply a vague category to Wikipedia. Arab Revolt in British Palestine was outside of the Arab World - it was within the British commonwealth. With your logic, Israel, Iraqi Kurdistan, Syrian Kurdistan, Cyprus and Turkey are also within the Arab World, since all have Arabic speaking populations.GreyShark (dibra) 06:07, 17 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
I do not agree with your proposal to rename that category. Meanwhile, I have restored sufficient navigation links by using "see also" links between Zionism in the Middle East (parent of Z in Mandatory Palestine) and Zionism in the Arab world. – Fayenatic London 21:08, 19 July 2016 (UTC)Reply