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Trionyx aquitanicus

Trionyx aquitanicus has been added as a species of Trionyx. That isn't a modern name but I was looking to find out what it refers to now. In the Paleobiology Database it is listed as 'Trionyx aquitanicus was named by Delfortrie (1869). It is extant.'

Maybe this paper could help us? Delfortrie, E. 1869. Les chéloniens du Miocène supérieur de la Gironde. Actes Soc. Linnéenne Bordeaux 27:399-440. from http://www.chelonian.org/taxonomic-turtle-literature/ Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 22:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Per this entry in the British Museum records it is a partial fossil form the Miocene of France. "Trionyx+aquitanicus"&source=bl&ots=Pd1AXjSZ1y&sig=KBxsrxTUfqhNM8YGUuybl-W-mps&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VMQpUPftCaeoiAK2voDwCg&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Fossil%20%22Trionyx%20aquitanicus%22&f=false The PBDB can be spotty at best on areas where there is no active researchers.--Kevmin § 03:34, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Kevmini, the PBDB maybe out of date (my experience) but as they said 'It is extant' I can't help wondering that it referees to some extant turtle. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 07:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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Nomenclatural Opinion affecting 2 species.

The ICZN recently handed down its opinions on two cases relevant to us. BZN Opinion 2315 is relevant to the Northern snake-necked turtle in particular but also to the Narrow-breasted snake-necked turtle. The decision was to reject the reversal of names and to maintain priority. This means that the name for the Northern snake-necked turtle is Chelodina (Macrochelodina) oblonga instead of Chelodina (Macrochelodina) rugosa as we have it. It must be said that this may not be popular and that there may be further submissions on this. However, in the interrim the official name for the species is established. The name for the Narrow-breasted snake-necked turtle is confirmed as Chelodina (Macrodiremys) colliei by this decision, which is what we have. We need to decide how we wish to name these species.
The other case is BZN Opinion 2316 which is relevant to the species Aldabra giant tortoise the name has been conserved as Aldabrachelys gigantea which is what we are currently using. This opinion can be cited for those who wish to use one of the alternatives available. Aldabrachelys gigantea is now the official name of this species.
Faendalimas ^talk 20:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Mud turtle problems

See my comment at Talk:Eastern mud turtle. Unless someone provides a better solution, I'll request the page merge within reasonable time. RN1970 (talk) 15:00, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Merge proposal initaited. RN1970 (talk) 15:31, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Aldabran Tortoise Pages

Please see discussion at Talk:Aldabra_giant_tortoise#Proposed_Merge I have also tagged the Dipsochelys page. Faendalimas ^talk 02:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Image error?

There's a photo image in the "Northern red-bellied cooter" article of an Eastern painted turtle, identified correctly as such by its caption, which enlarges into a page erroneously titled "Northern red-bellied cooter". Considering nowhere in the article on the Northern red-bellied cooter is the Eastern painted turtle even mentioned, the insertion of its image would seem to be a mistake. Thanks ----- Janice Byer, Delaware, USA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janbyer (talk • contribs) 04:54, 24 June 2013 (UTC) P.S. On the article page, I've amended he image caption to clarify it's not the species featured but a related one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janbyer (talk • contribs) 04:01, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Tortoises

I didn't think I would have to bring this up again (I've already been in a couple edit wars over this), but in many varieties of English and for many speakers, tortoises and turtles can be considered mutually distinct families of chelonian—tortoises are land-dwelling, whereas turtles are sea-dwelling. I've seen some edits made by members of WPT arguing that turtles are a superset of tortoises, which is how the matter is considered in at least American English, but not in many other dialects. See this section for additional information.  — TORTOISEWRATH 18:51, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

What exactly is the point and issue here please. All tortoises are turtles, that's what they are, tortoise refers to members of the Testudinidae. In any case the link you provided shows that this is still very innacurate when its applied for vernacular names. For example Australia has one species of semiaquatic turtle, all the rest are aquatic, many completely. Cheers, Faendalimas ^talk 07:01, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Funnily enough, I just made a related point at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Turtle#Not_correct. In fact, in common UK usage (don't know about scientific usage), all tortoises definitely are not turtles. In common UK usage, turtles live in the sea (or sometimes rivers) and tortoises live on land. 86.130.67.106 (talk) 22:50, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately you are looking at this from the point of view of vernacular names, these are innacurate, and varied in their usage, even within countries. There can be no concensus on this as there are so many meanings of the terms. However, the correct names, and the scientific ones, have their placement and need to have priority. This is because they at least have a foundation in descriptive facts about these animals. People keep bringing up common names without any knowledge of how they refer across scientific names. If you are going to take the time to gather information about common names, at least spend the time to learn the scientific names. Also what the term Family means in Zoology. Cheers Faendalimas ^talk 12:42, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I did not need to "take time to gather information" because this is common usage and common knoweldge in the UK. Anyone in the UK will tell you the same: tortoises live on land and turtles live in the water. I have no problem with articles using scientific terminology in the main, but common names, and their regional differences, must be correctly explained also. The Turtle article has such a section, which is good, but the information that it gives is incorrect as regards the UK, which is not good. 86.171.43.122 (talk) 17:31, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

"Tortoiseshell"

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Photo of extinct tortoise?

Korean Expo2012 tortoise

The photo here is labelled as an extinct species on Commons, but not which. Judging on the letters in the background, it seems to be from the Galapagos islands. Anyone know what it is? FunkMonk (talk) 18:44, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Seems to be Galápagos tortoise. Some of the Subspecies of Galápagos tortoise are extinct. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 21:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. Any indication of which subspecies it could be? FunkMonk (talk) 22:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Important Request

I have started a discussion ar Talk:Narrow-breasted_snake-necked_turtle#Name_Change_and_Move that I would appreciate discussion on. WP could actually have a lead role and assist with this. Faendalimas ^talk 10:52, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

how many soft shelled turtles are left in the world?

how many soft shelled turtles are left in the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.100.247.28 (talk) 22:52, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

• I don't have any numbers for soft-shelled turtles. Some of them: Florida softshell turtle, Spiny softshell turtle, Malayan softshell turtle are designated Least Concern, so the populations of some species are healthy. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 10:22, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

A butterfly feeding on the tears of a turtle in Ecuador

Original – Two Julia Butterflies (Dryas iulia) drinking the tears of turtles in Ecuador

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Active?

Seems little recent activity. Is anyone checking in anymore? Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 20:33, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Turtles deleted.

Portal:Turtles deleted see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Portal:Turtles. Note that Portal:Turtles had 13 page views a day and Portal:Reptiles has a daily average of 14 per day (https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-90&pages=Portal:Reptiles). Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 10:42, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Murray River turtle

It's not clear the correct landing page for Murray River turtle due to a recent split in the taxo. Emydura australis being an option instead of Emydura macquarii. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 10:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Checklist 2017

• http://www.iucn-tftsg.org/checklist/
• http://images.turtleconservancy.org/documents/2017/crm-7-checklist-atlas-v8-2017.pdf

Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 11:11, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Land turtle

I noticed a redirect Land turtle which goes to Tortoise, is this sourceable? An IP made an alternative claim. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 14:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Never heard the box turtles being called land turtles, I would revert this. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) ^talk 20:16, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay. Have reverted. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 01:01, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Asian softshell turtle

Seems a dab or redirect will be required for this term or similar. Been editing of this article. Looking at the 2017 checklist, Nilssonia (turtle) is given, ref 78 on page 231. Asian giant softshell turtle is also used on Cantor's giant softshell turtle. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 18:22, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Several of the asian softshell species are known as Asian Giant Softshell, at least 3 of them. To me the common names are often almost useless if not ambiguous, many referring to several species. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) ^talk 20:18, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

In the process of creating a few disambiguation pages around these names. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 01:03, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Herpetology subgroups.

Cheloniology, Cheloniologist, Testudinology, Testudinologist. These terms seem a bit specific and perhaps don't meet Wikipedia notability. Thoughts? Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 15:48, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Merge to herpetology. There are barely any incoming links from article space. The only references provided are for content that doesn't really belong in the article (phylogeny and conservation aren't very relevant to cheloniology as a discipline). It's not a very good article, the term is over-specialized and not really used much, better just to redirect it. Plantdrew (talk) 15:54, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Sent to Afd. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cheloniology. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 14:25, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Subfamilies of Chelidae

Hi @Sun Creator: noticed you just made a redirect for Chelid subfamilies, typo in Chelinae you have Chelidinae, the name is formed from the genus Chelus, hence is extended to Chelinae. Other two are correct. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) ^talk 22:19, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

I don't recall making redirects. Perhaps you mean I updated the talk page? Or perhaps you could refresh me on which pages I made redirects for. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 22:35, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

My apologies it is an old edit I thought it was part of your changes to to create, anyway this redirect Chelidinae will need to be moved to Chelinae, it also appears on the project page. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) ^talk 22:56, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Well, I changed that but it's now a double redirect as Chelidinae redirect to Chelinae which redirect to Chelidae. So Chelidinae can redirect straight to Chelidae which it how it was. I'm confused! Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 23:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

No one ever made pages for the subfamilies, which is probably not necessary. So the only info on them is contained in the page on the family. So the links should have been fro the mentions of the subfamilies on any taxobox that uses them to the family page. However the redirect pages were made. Its a little messy, but there would be very little to say about the subfamilies for pages of their owm. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) ^talk 23:58, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Geoemydinae, Cyclanorbinae, Emydinae, Kinosterninae, Staurotypinae, Trionychinae and Cheloniinae are subfamily articles. However they are all stubs and little can be said in them, perhaps redirect them to the family level. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 00:18, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Checking reptiles

Checking other reptiles I did find that some subfamily article exist, Tomistominae, Gryposuchinae, Mekosuchinae, Brookesiinae although some are missing i.e Litoriinae Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 20:16, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

To do

• Make River turtle into a dab. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 16:13, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
• Also Mediterranean tortoise. Sun Creator^(talk) 23:15, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Taxon updates

Some taxon updates, a few long overdue:

• Family Chelodininae split into Chelodininae and Pseudemydurinae. Pseudemydura is in the subfamily Pseudemydurinae, templates {{Pleurodira}} and {{Testudines}} updated.
• Genus Ocadia is now a synonym in Mauremys.
• Genus Flaviemys is now a synonym in Myuchelys.
• Genus Homopus split into Homopus and Chersobius
• Genus Elseya now has subgenera Elseya (Elseya), Elseya (Hanwarachelys) and Elseya (Pelocomastes)
• Genus Testudo (genus) now has subgenera Testudo (Testudo) + Testudo (Agrionemys) and Testudo (Chersine)
• Species Kinosternon arizonense split in to the extinct Kinosternon arizonense† and the extant Kinosternon stejnegeri
• Species Trachemys emolli changed to a subspecies Trachemys grayi emolli
• Species Chelonoidis porteri split into Chelonoidis porteri and Chelonoidis donfaustoi
• Species Gopherus morafkai split into Gopherus morafkai and Gopherus evgoodei
• Species Pelomedusa subrufa, many changes
• Chelonoidis nigra species complex is now Chelonoidis niger species complex
• Subspecies Kinosternon subrubrum steindachneri elevated to species Kinosternon steindachneri
• Subspecies Trachemys ornata callirostris moved to Trachemys venusta callirostris and Trachemys venusta panamensis moved to Trachemys grayi panamensi
• The anticipated Chelonii did not get elevated. So Testudines is still the correct name of the order.
• Plus more, especially at species and subspecies level.

All extant turtles now have one of the automatic taxoboxes {{Automatic taxobox}}, {{Speciesbox}}, {{Subspeciesbox}}, {{Hybridbox}} or {{Hybridbox/lua}}. About 34 extinct turtle articles still have a manual taxobox.

If in doubt of any turtle taxonomy please check the IUCN TTWG 2017 document TURTLES OF THE WORLD Annotated Checklist and Atlas of Taxonomy, Synonymy, Distribution, and Conservation Status (8th Ed.). Especially changes page 15 which has updates since previous edition. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 05:47, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes definitely follow this and the Reptile Database I would also suggest that when examining what and why different splits have occurred that they read the annotations in the Turtles of the World PDF, this is open access freely available for download for anyone writing on turtles. The annotations give you all the references and reasoning behind any changes. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) ^talk 14:45, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

• The remaining 34 extinct turtle articles have been converted to use an automatic taxobox. So all relevant articles now have a variation of an automatic taxobox. Sun Creator^(talk) 14:27, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Taxonbar

All taxon turtle articles now have a {{taxonbar}} template. Sun Creator^(talk) 12:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Well, except for Arizona mud turtle/Kinosternon arizonense. But that needs to get sorted out in Wikidata and other databases (I just wanted to note the issue here in hopes that it can be revisited as other databases update). Plantdrew (talk) 15:47, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done Arizona mud turtle, Kinosternon arizonense and Florida mud turtle are now added/corrected. Sun Creator^(talk) 09:34, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

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Giant tortoise

Something wants to be done with the article Giant tortoise, it's not taxonomically correct. It's a mixing up of various tortoise genus, species and subspecies that results in a misleading mess. I'm not sure what would be appropriate way to resolve it in this case. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 20:16, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

A disambiguation page like Giant lizard, Giant frog, Large frog. Giant earthworm, Giant squid, Giant octopus seems suitable. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 20:34, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Considering making Giant tortoise (disambiguation). Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 20:51, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

For this to be helpful, I think the phrase Giant tortoise to redirect to Giant tortoise (disambiguation). Right now the problems with Giant tortoise still exist, so I think that article should be considered for deletion and replaced with the disambiguation page. Thoughts? starsandwhales (talk) 14:17, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

agree with delete/ merge of giant tortoise into the various mainspace articles on the various species, retain only the disambig page. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) ^talk 21:55, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Chelodina colliei versus Chelodina oblonga

I sometimes come across the Southwestern snake-necked turtle on my travels, usually crossing roads, and like to take pictures of them after ensuring they make it safely across. There is however a bit of confusion on Commons about this. Chelodina colliei is, I believe, the correct category and name for the Southwestern snake-necked turtle. There is however also a category Chelodina oblonga, which also states that it is the Southwesterrn snake-necked turtle or Narrow-breasted snake-necked turtle. From what I understand however, Chelodina oblonga is an outdated name and Chelodina rugosa should be used instead, and only for the Northern snake-necked turtle. I'm unqualified to sort this out as I don't fully understand what is correct or not. If an expert could look at this potential mix up it would help other users greatly. Calistemon (talk) 13:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Rosasia

Does anyone have the paper describing Rosasia sotoui? If so, could you provide a citation so I can put it in the article? Thanks!

Borophagus (talk) 11:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Nothing substantial. 2016 in paleontology gives a mention in https://www.biotaxa.org/Zootaxa/article/view/zootaxa.4200.2.7. Ideally find the original 1940 Carrington da Costa(João Carrington Simões da Costa?) text, which might be in Portuguese or Spanish. A picture and some info is here. Maybe ask for more at WT:PAL and es:Wikiproyecto_discusión:Paleontología

Also thank you for the new articles you've created. Sun Creator^(talk) 17:44, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Turtle

Turtle is currently a good article nomination, Talk:Turtle/GA1. Sun Creator^(talk) 13:06, 6 July 2021 (UTC)