Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Packaging

Userbox

This user is a member of WikiProject Containers

Is there an official userbox I can display on my user page to indicate my membership of Wikiproject Containers? Horatio Snickers (talk) 18:25, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

I've had a crack at one. -- Hillbillyholiday ^talk 22:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

• The box above has been copied to Template:WikiProject Containers user box. Northamerica1000^(talk) 04:56, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

The user box has also added to the project's Templates section. Northamerica1000^(talk) 05:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Article improvements

I've just added a picture to Retail clerk. One lovely clerk, three gorgeous buckets. Can you believe that before the start of this project, Commons had no pictures of store clerks? Draco^E 12:23, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I noticed your uploads of bucket images on Commons. And you have already made good use of one. Even if this project accomplishes nothing else, at least we have done that. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 23:05, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Can you imagine? Commons did not even have a category for Metal buckets, or Rusty buckets. And practically no images of either either! Andreas JN466 05:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Incredibly, there weren't categories for Tupperware with cats in nor Yellow Tupperware containing sugar snap peas neither. Shameful. -- Hillbillyholiday ^talk 07:39, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

At least the 'Lids' category is a tad more up-to-date now. -- Hillbillyholiday ^talk 07:45, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

And the Wikipedia articles for goats and pigs are looking grand. -- Hillbillyholiday ^talk 07:58, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Project image

I've added an image to the WikiProject tag. I don't know if the troll and bucket is an official symbol, and of course I'll defer to project members if they wish to use another image, but I think there's a certain poetic elegance to a simple cardboard box sitting in a corner. --BDD (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

How about the notion of using File:Containers icon.png (shown right) as the image on the project banner? Of course, it would be reduced in size compared to the size on the right here. This graphic has more color and different types of containers, and hence more eye appeal compared to the cardboard box image, in my opinion. Northamerica1000^(talk) 08:31, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree. Pkgx (talk) 14:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

I still like the cardboard box. But this is pretty good. --BDD (talk) 17:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

New navigation box

This has been added to the Templates section on the project's main page. Northamerica1000^(talk) 08:25, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Typing {{Containers}} produces:

An alternative to the container nav box is the packaging nav box: {{Packaging}}. This has expanded links in container materials, processes, machinery, etc. Perhaps the packaging nav box would be preferred, we might even merge containers nav box into packaging. Pkgx (talk) 16:58, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Container can be made great.

Now that Container has been created as an article, it should be the lead article for this project. It can be improved greatly with expanded discussion about the ancient history of containers and their advances up to today, with information about the traditional and commercial uses of containers, and with expanded discussion of how containers have become standardized, homogenized, and market-oriented. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:33, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Packaging

Containers is a good WikiProject. A broader scope of Containers would be Packaging. As the packaging nav box indicates, the scope might include packaging materials, processes, machinery, and general articles: {{Packaging}}. I suggest a name change to have WikiProject Packaging. We might bring in more people to help with the broader scope. Any comments? Pkgx (talk) 17:04, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Project rater script broken

The project rater script User:Kephir/gadgets/rater doesn't work for {{WikiProject Containers}}. Anyone know if it's a bug here or in the script? Widefox; talk 09:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

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Activity

Someone has tried to deactivate this project. Please do not. I agree that more members are needed but good work has been accomplished and should not be arbitrary deleted. Pkgx (talk) 01:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

• Should this status be; Category:Semi-active WikiProjects? Pkgx (talk) 18:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

I am still here, I still watch container articles. I think if there are a couple of people watching and responding on the talk page then the article should be listed as active, not sem-active. Bluerasberry (talk) 00:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Lockbox listed at Requested moves

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Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:48, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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Cardboard is an ambiguous word

An editor had made a sloppy merger of Corrugated box design and Cardboard box. No consensus had been attempted. Cardboard is an ambiguous word and might relate to many different types of heavy paper. It is best to keep Wikipedia articles clear and unambiguous. I have reverted this attempt but we need to keep watch. Pkgx (talk) 17:13, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Both articles are garbage: there is no need to have a vote to clean things up around here. The sacrosanct nature of the word "cardboard" is irrelevant per WP:COMMONNAME. I'll eventually re-merge these when I can be bothered. pkgx (talk · contribs) is invited to improve them himself, though in nearly 20 years of editing I'm yet to encounter any officious reverters with the slightest interest in actually improving things. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 19:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

• A merger always needs votes: please read Wikipedia:Merging. Yes both articles need improvement and your assistance would be appreciated. However, shuffling two needy articles does not always yield an improvement. Pkgx (talk) 19:44, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

  No, it doesn't. Any editor can perform a merger. No permission or discussion is needed if you think the merge is uncontroversial; just do it. A single veto without a convincing argument is worthless, and I will discard it. I don't care for self-appointed guardians of articles, especially those who demonstrably add no value being here. Either fix this mess yourself or see it fixed for you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 23:16, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

• I am not sure what changes you would like to see in these articles. Perhaps we could come up with a better name for "corrugated box design". I suggest that further discussion be continued on the Talk pages of the two articles. I look forward to your constructive input.Pkgx (talk) 17:36, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

  No. The onus is on you to provide arguments against a merge. Trivial semantic issues are not strong arguments. Try harder, or see this fixed (again) in future. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 00:06, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

• I would say that a Corrugated cardboard box is merely a type of Cardboard box, and Corrugated box design is a subtopic of the kind of box (note that a corrugated box made from some material other than cardboard is also possible). I would support this proposed merge. BD2412 T 01:37, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you for your interest but there is NOT a merger proposal. I am waiting for such a proposal and will vote against it when it and supporting material is posted. This is not the place to make votes and comments. Pkgx (talk) 14:09, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

  It doesn't matter what your opinion on procedure is here. If there is consensus for a merge then it will happen regardless of the format of that discussion. Again, the onus is on you to explain why you undid a considerable amount of work to restore two articles to a state where they are of incredibly low quality. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:46, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

  • Please follow Wikipedia standards for a proposed merge. So far there has been no posted merger proposal nor has there been any justification for a merger provided. I cannot respond to something unknown. The burden is on you to do both. Please cooperate. Pkgx (talk) 13:52, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Juicebox listed at Requested moves

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Requested move 11 November 2023

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The result of the move request was: move to Wikipedia:WikiProject Packaging, lacking any opposition to this proposal. Given the small amount of participation, there is no prejudice against additional move requests in the near future. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 16:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Containers → Wikipedia:WikiProject Containers and Storages – Containers and Storages are very similar by not exact, and storage-related articles don't exactly have a WikiProject dedicated to the subject. With that, I believe this WikiProject is the appropriate designation to cover storage-related pages, expanding the scope of the project; just like Wikipedia:WikiProject Veganism and Vegetarianism. Jerium (talk) 18:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 21:21, 18 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (he|she|they) 08:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• I don't think "Storages" is a proper plural. Storage devices or storage mechanisms, perhaps, or just "Containers and Storage". BD2412 T 18:45, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

I didn't put much thought into this, it was just assumption. Jerium (talk) 18:53, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

• No, "storages" would not be an improvement. Pkgx (talk) 23:30, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Then what would? Jerium (talk) 23:34, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
    • I could support 'Packaging" or "Packages". Those would fit better with most of the content>Pkgx (talk) 23:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response, "Wikipedia:WikiProject Packaging is perfect. – Jerium (talk) 01:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Multiple alternatives are proposed, and should be discussed further. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 21:21, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

• Comment I'll make this separately from the relist, but I'd like to clarify this, @Jerium: are you intending to move this into the Article namespace? WikiProjects are generally in the project namespace per WP:PROPAGES. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 21:23, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

EggRoll97 No, it will still be a WikiProject, sorry, forgot the "Wikipedia:" part in this RM. Jerium (talk) 21:26, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: There's a few possible options that have been proposed and I'll give it a week for some more discussion. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (he|she|they) 08:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Importance scale missing

Was going to add project banner to pages that could be assessed for this project, but notice nothing was popping up for importance in the banner. Does somebody know how to create an importance scale? I certainly don't. Thanks. Jerium (talk) 00:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Rename "Packaging and labeling"?

Please note a proposed split or renaming of Packaging and labeling. Please review the proposal and give your input.Pkgx (talk) 16:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

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New members needed

Please join the list of members. We need to add content to articles and to add new relevant articles. We also need to watch for promotional spam. Pkgx (talk) 18:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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